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I think it will take more than $100 to keep the 9XXX cool on a full load. My 9370 will overwhelm a 240 mm clc at stock speeds and voltages in prime 95. You can undevolt it a bit and make it run slightly cooler but it's one hot momma.
Honestly, unless you want to invest a lot of money, I'd stick to the 8320 if I were you . I think anything less than the crosshair or sabre is asking for a dead board , just my 2 cents. The vrm's on my CHV-Z get too hot to touch if you really clock up the 9370.

Here is my 9370 priming at 5 ghz on a 480 mm custom loop with a koolance 380A, 3/4 inch od tubing and a horse of a pump.

oh definitely i agree! i meant put it towards cooling the chip! i am under no illusions that you can slap a clc on here and it will be perfectly fine.

i meant to say spending $300 on the cpu and still having to spend a good amount for a cooling solution may not be feasible, rather saving $100 for a similar chip and using the savings towards cooling it!


and how is owing a 9370?
i have an 8120 that i picked up for $100 with an h50 for free, and was thinking about an upgrade in the future... do you think that getting this as opposed to an 8350 worth it. right now the 8350 is $184 and the 9370 is $234.

Edit:
congrats on your overclock hitting 5ghz! thumb.gif

and i definitely agree with you, overclocking this chip with anything other than the sabertooth or the crosshair formula is pretty foolish, but it SHOULD run fine on the 990fx pro, others have done it, and asus has verified it. but should you run a 9000 series on this board, probably not, it probably wouldnt last as long as the higher end boards.

and i do agree, stick with the 8320, and unless you have a terrible cpu that cant overclock worth a crap, its probably not worth changing it out.
Edited by Ultra-m-a-n - 3/8/14 at 8:27pm
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I think it will take more than $100 to keep the 9XXX cool on a full load. My 9370 will overwhelm a 240 mm clc at stock speeds and voltages in prime 95. You can undevolt it a bit and make it run slightly cooler but it's one hot momma.
Honestly, unless you want to invest a lot of money, I'd stick to the 8320 if I were you . I think anything less than the crosshair or sabre is asking for a dead board , just my 2 cents. The vrm's on my CHV-Z get too hot to touch if you really clock up the 9370.

Here is my 9370 priming at 5 ghz on a 480 mm custom loop with a koolance 380A, 3/4 inch od tubing and a horse of a pump.

oh definitely i agree! i meant put it towards cooling the chip! i am under no illusions that you can slap a clc on here and it will be perfectly fine.

i meant to say spending $300 on the cpu and still having to spend a good amount for a cooling solution may not be feasible, rather saving $100 for a similar chip and using the savings towards cooling it!


and how is owing a 9370?
i have an 8120 that i picked up for $100 with an h50 for free, and was thinking about an upgrade in the future... do you think that getting this as opposed to an 8350 worth it. right now the 8350 is $184 and the 9370 is $234.

The 9370 is absolutely stable at higher clocks than the 8XXX are, and at less voltage but it does so with a huge heat penalty. Also they are finicky, and tuning one is harder than the 8xxx's ( ive had 4 , currently have 2).

I'd say you can count on one to be prime 95 stable at 2 to 400 mhz higher than an 8350 but the 8350 may be able to clock higher for benches that don't have that kind of load , simply because they will run cooler. (at around the 5 ghz mark 10C can make a 200 mhz difference in stable clocks from my experience). Probably the only real practical way to run one daily is to undervolt it ( vid is 1.53 on mine) and lock all cores to 4.8 ghz or less so as to stay on the low side of the voltage wall ( mine will prime at around 1.41 volts @ 4.7ghz). Notice how much cooler it is running at that speed and voltage.

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The 9370 is absolutely stable at higher clocks than the 8XXX are, and at less voltage but it does so with a huge heat penalty. Also they are finicky, and tuning one is harder than the 8xxx's ( ive had 4 , currently have 2).

I'd say you can count on one to be prime 95 stable at 2 to 400 mhz higher than an 8350 but the 8350 may be able to clock higher for benches that don't have that kind of load , simply because they will run cooler. (at around the 5 ghz mark 10C can make a 200 mhz difference in stable clocks from my experience). Probably the only real practical way to run one daily is to undervolt it ( vid is 1.53 on mine) and lock all cores to 4.8 ghz or less so as to stay on the low side of the voltage wall ( mine will prime at around 1.41 volts @ 4.7ghz). Notice how much cooler it is running at that speed and voltage.


so it does run hotter at the same clock speed as an 83xx but more stable?
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The 9370 is absolutely stable at higher clocks than the 8XXX are, and at less voltage but it does so with a huge heat penalty. Also they are finicky, and tuning one is harder than the 8xxx's ( ive had 4 , currently have 2).

I'd say you can count on one to be prime 95 stable at 2 to 400 mhz higher than an 8350 but the 8350 may be able to clock higher for benches that don't have that kind of load , simply because they will run cooler. (at around the 5 ghz mark 10C can make a 200 mhz difference in stable clocks from my experience). Probably the only real practical way to run one daily is to undervolt it ( vid is 1.53 on mine) and lock all cores to 4.8 ghz or less so as to stay on the low side of the voltage wall ( mine will prime at around 1.41 volts @ 4.7ghz). Notice how much cooler it is running at that speed and voltage.


so it does run hotter at the same clock speed as an 83xx but more stable?

I will qualify that, it will run fairly cool if you undervolt it, but at stock volts and clocks, it will run much hotter than my 8XXX's if you match the stock 9370 settings. It becomes even more pronounced as you go above 4.9 ghz.
As a blanket statement, the 8350 is a more practical chip. The 9xxx's are really only for guys that have a great supporting cast of psu, mobo and custom loops.
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I will qualify that, it will run fairly cool if you undervolt it, but at stock volts and clocks, it will run much hotter than my 8XXX's if you match the stock 9370 settings. It becomes even more pronounced as you go above 4.9 ghz.
As a blanket statement, the 8350 is a more practical chip. The 9xxx's are really only for guys that have a great supporting cast of psu, mobo and custom loops.

Thanks! so the stuff that they say about the 9000s being a different animal is pretty accurate.
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A new PSU would mean a new UPS too. The electricity here needs to be stabilized by a UPS before I can send it to my PC. My current one only allows a maximum of 660w, and my PSU is a 620w one. Although, the 9590 should be able to work on it, 660w is more than enough unless you have dual GPUs.

As for upgrading the CPU, I'll probably stick to my chip, but IDK about OCing it. I'll have to see once i get a good cooler.
    
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A new PSU would mean a new UPS too. The electricity here needs to be stabilized by a UPS before I can send it to my PC. My current one only allows a maximum of 660w, and my PSU is a 620w one. Although, the 9590 should be able to work on it, 660w is more than enough unless you have dual GPUs.

As for upgrading the CPU, I'll probably stick to my chip, but IDK about OCing it. I'll have to see once i get a good cooler.

theres plenty of guides on how to overclock the chip... or you can just be lazy and run OC tuner in the bios with your motherboard, it is better than nothing. haha i did that after i did a cmos clear and was lazy to fiddle with stuff.
and as far as cooling goes, if you arent pushing huge overclocks something like a cooler master 212 evo is a huge improvement over the stock cooler and it should be around $30 usd.
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something like a cooler master 212 evo is a huge improvement over the stock cooler and it should be around $30 usd.

I have the same cooler, and I can't even get 4.2 without the socket temps soaring up on IBT AVX.
    
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also you should get something to actually see how much power you are pulling out of the wall realistically with something like this: http://www.amazon.com/Arbor-Scientific-P4400-Kill-Meter/dp/B001JHGY2Q to see your actual power draw under load to see if you need to spend more on upgrading your UPS.
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I would stick with what you got and get a bad ass GPU
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