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There must be something that either I am not understanding, or there is just a big difference between how you and I judge this. I have downloaded actual UHD video, as well as played at least 20 different games to test in UHD so far, and I can say there's a huge difference in my eyes. I can definitely see some textures not up to par, but other than that the increased resolution is unmistakable to me. Everything is much sharper and where supported, much more detailed. You said earlier that BF4 didn't support 4k correctly? That is not at all what my experience has been. It looks way clearer to me when playing, and that's just with my single 290.

You can rolleyes.gif all you want but I stand by my opinion of it being a big difference. Hell, I have my old 1440p monitor next to this 4k one, and believe me, I can tell a huge difference. I'll make sure to run two copies of games at times to make sure to see them side by side, but again man, I am not bull****ting anyone. I can see a big difference.

have some demo or benchmark running side by side and have a friend decide (without giving him any details)

if it takes your friend a second to sit there and really look for any differences, then it's a fail in my opinion. if you have to search for improvements (a $700 improvement) then you're doing it wrong.

Now I haven't seen this monitor in action, so I have no place to talk. Just food for thought.
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post #332 of 1323
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Originally Posted by lacrossewacker View Post

have some demo or benchmark running side by side and have a friend decide (without giving him any details)

if it takes your friend a second to sit there and really look for any differences, then it's a fail in my opinion. if you have to search for improvements (a $700 improvement) then you're doing it wrong.

Now I haven't seen this monitor in action, so I have no place to talk. Just food for thought.

Well as I said previous in this thread, I did not buy the 4k monitor for gaming. I can just tell a difference. Obviously the difference in screen real estate is huge, and very useful. I wouldn't say I have to "search" for improvements, as they are readly apparent. In fact, my brother and I were playing side by side on a few games the other day (he using my 1440p, and I using the 4k) and there was definitely a difference.


Now, here's the honest truth. Is it something I think the average person would go out and buy for $700, just for gaming? No, I don't. For someone like myself, whose entire career, and favorite hobby, are in computers and technology? Absolutely. I am in love with the monitor. It is exactly what I've been looking for for years - a pixel density for my computer monitor that is as fine as possible. Yeah, I know there were 4k CRT's and stuff but this is the monitor that hit all the checkboxes.

I will definitely do a comparison for like, my dad or something sometime. He is 60 and his eyesight is waning. I don't expect him to really notice a difference, but might as well try. That would be the best way I could imagine to test this theory out.
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Originally Posted by pompss View Post

you can see that the 4k is more clear and more detail but no the big difference when u play the game in movement.

I think with bigger monitor we will see more difference for sure but with 28 inch its not worth the upgrade if you come from a 27'' 1440p.

Anyway samsung did an amazing monitor.
i really can see no big difference from ips to this TN at all.


I fully respect that opinion, and agree with how great of a TN monitor it is. I'm so excited UHD monitors are getting affordable at 60hz! I hope a bigger monitor of your liking comes out (and at an affordable price) soon!

You know, maybe I'm just super appreciating "4k is more clear and more detail" and neglecting the motion aspect, as that is by far what I notice the most.

Regardless, this is the most expensive monitor I've ever bought, and I am very pleased with it.
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Well as I said previous in this thread, I did not buy the 4k monitor for gaming. I can just tell a difference. Obviously the difference in screen real estate is huge, and very useful. I wouldn't say I have to "search" for improvements, as they are readly apparent. In fact, my brother and I were playing side by side on a few games the other day (he using my 1440p, and I using the 4k) and there was definitely a difference.


Now, here's the honest truth. Is it something I think the average person would go out and buy for $700, just for gaming? No, I don't. For someone like myself, whose entire career, and favorite hobby, are in computers and technology? Absolutely. I am in love with the monitor. It is exactly what I've been looking for for years - a pixel density for my computer monitor that is as fine as possible. Yeah, I know there were 4k CRT's and stuff but this is the monitor that hit all the checkboxes.

I will definitely do a comparison for like, my dad or something sometime. He is 60 and his eyesight is waning. I don't expect him to really notice a difference, but might as well try. That would be the best way I could imagine to test this theory out.
I fully respect that opinion, and agree with how great of a TN monitor it is. I'm so excited UHD monitors are getting affordable at 60hz! I hope a bigger monitor of your liking comes out (and at an affordable price) soon!

You know, maybe I'm just super appreciating "4k is more clear and more detail" and neglecting the motion aspect, as that is by far what I notice the most.

Regardless, this is the most expensive monitor I've ever bought, and I am very pleased with it.

Met too
I enjoy the monitor but i will upgrade to 32" when its coming out.
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Met too
I enjoy the monitor but i will upgrade to 32" when its coming out.


I can try to take some pictures for you over the weekend on how gaming looks between different 4k screens. I've got the samsung which is 28" and then I have a 84" 4k LG in my living room but that would be limited to 4k 30hz because hdmi 1.4 =/



I for one agree with Etizolam that the difference on pretty much the same screen size (27 vs 28) 1440p vs 4k there is a noticeable difference in all visual applications.
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I can try to take some pictures for you over the weekend on how gaming looks between different 4k screens. I've got the samsung which is 28" and then I have a 84" 4k LG in my living room but that would be limited to 4k 30hz because hdmi 1.4 =/



I for one agree with Etizolam that the difference on pretty much the same screen size (27 vs 28) 1440p vs 4k there is a noticeable difference in all visual applications.


Thanks phallacy appreciate that

I respect any opinion and i think people need to know the difference and decide by them self if is worth or not the switch
That's why i share the pics to the community so they can evaluate and decide.
I dont have a 4k camera so i cant make any video but i will try with nvidia experience and see if the i can post some video of the gameplay in 4k and 1440p later tonite.thumb.gif
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I think I'll take pompss's advice and wait until they release 30" or 32" sizes. Probably the thing that I liked most about my QNIX was the increase from my old 23" 1080p monitor to 27". I like how the larger screen is more immersive, but I reckon 32" will be the sweet spot for my desk and the distance I sit from my monitor.
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It's worth it for me just to watch 4k movie trailers on youtube. Just do a search for "4k Trailers" and you'll get a lot of them.

I'm not sure if B4 supports 4k res textures, but it sure looks better to my eyes at the higher resolution. It really depends on the kind of gaming you do.
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Could you share where we can download UHD video? Thanks so much.

It'd be greatly appreciated if someone could provide feedbacks on the upscale feature from 1080p source such as Cable Box, Xbox, Bluray, 1080p PC games, Netflix, Youtube, etc. This is easily the best feature since most of the content available is in 1080p. How does it compare to other scalers you've experienced or heard of or the scaler from PC when playing 1080p movies, etc? Is there any delays when gaming from xbox or PC 1080p and using the 4k Upscaler?

I've heard of great reviews from:
http://www.amazon.com/Seiki-Digital-SU4KC1-U-Vision-Converting/dp/B00IE5C6LO/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1395337199&sr=1-1&keywords=seiki+cable

How does this UD590 compare to the Seiki 4k and the Lenovo Yoga2Pro 3200x1800 or similar screen?

Thanks so much.

The UHD footage is found by googling UHD/4k native footage. There aren't any movies - more like clips and samples, but it looks VERY good. If you have any trouble finding any I can look up where I downloaded them, but I got them at work (gigabit internet smile.gif ) and don't have that info on me right now.

The scaler is very good from PC sources, I haven't tried anything else. 1080p is obviously not as crisp as 4k but it looks exactly like 1080p on a 28" screen. Maybe others could help out more on that.
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Ahhhhh, good memories, I remember the same things being said of 2560x1600 vs. 1920x1080/1200 many years ago and some people insisting it's basically no difference visually, when in actuality it's huge and once more people got ahold of the screens that became common knowledge. Same thing will be true of 4K resolution. It's a big jump given the same screen size thanks to both DPI and it allowing for much more texel space on the display, resulting in more of a texture being used and a more accurate representation of the virtual geometry in the game world. I plan on getting a 4K display in a few months (now just doesn't work for me) and hopefully at that point we'll know more about high-end Maxwell, which I may pair with it. I'll evaluate 4K display options then but one thing I do not doubt in the slightest is that 4K vs. 2560x1440 is a very noticeable increase in apparent visual quality in-person.

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I'm gonna go ahead and disagree with the thought that it's hard to tell a difference in BF going from 1440p -> 4k. I will take screenshots later tonight to try and prove it, but screenshots are not always the best way to see visual differences, as motion is much more important. Anyways, I can very clearly see a large increase from 1440 -> 4k in multiplayer. I was playing on Paracel Storm, for what it's worth.

In fact, I can tell a big difference on every game I've played. Some of them definitely do not have textures that can take the increase, which results in some weird looking games at some times (especially when some textures are a higher res than others) but again, the increased resolution is very apparent. As I've said before, I am a huge visual clarity stickler, which may explain why I can tell the difference and others can't. I am the type of person who would rather have 4k (or previously, 1440p) at 60hz than 1080p at 120hz, so yeah.

When I get my second 290, then I feel I will be extremely happy at the performance.
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Why would you want a 4k resolution on a 28" display ?
 
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