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post #1 of 29
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WaterCoolingPlans.xlsx 12k .xlsx file
Hello everyone,
I am looking into creating my first water cooling loop. I have attached an excel file that contains the parts that I have been looking at integrating into this loop. I was hoping that someone could take a look what I have chosen so far and advise me on what they think of it. The biggest issue that I am having is finding a water block for my Sapphire 100354OC-2L. I understand that water blocks do not always fit on every model of graphics card and you have to check for compatibility but I cant seem to find my card on a list. I was looking for a block that would be copper as I do not wish to mix materials in my loop.
I would really appreciate any guidance that I can receive on this project. After I square away what components I'll be using, I hope to start a build log. I am looking to create a desk with the computer integrated in it. I've been inspired to do so since I saw the L3P D3SK over a year ago and decided to finally take a crack at it.biggrin.gif
Thanks,
klesk
post #2 of 29
Any reason for PMP-500 over MCP-655? One reviewer said the PMP was very loud, if you are fine with that then you should be ok. As for the GPU waterblock if you can't find one from EK or anyone else that fits your GPU then you might have to go with a universal waterblock from Swiftech instead of using a full GPU waterblock.
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Thanks for your input. One of the reasons that I went with the PMP-500 was the 12v max that the Lamptron CW611 is able to output (or should I not be having the pump also on the Lamptron?). The PMP-500 is still able to put out 4.2 GPM at 12V. Do you know if the 317 GPH (an impressive 5.3 GPM) is for the nominal voltage of 12V for the MCP-655 or the upper 24V? It would be sort of nice to have a quieter pump if it still would support everything in the loop.

I did a little more looking on the GPU water block and found the EK-FC7870 - Acetal+Nickel. It lists as being Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 OC 2GB GDDR5 compatible but I'm not sure if that means my specific version of Sapphire 7870 would work.

Thanks for taking the time to respond.
klesk
post #4 of 29
Be aware this is my opinion, so please read more guy's recommendations before buying anything!

[*] Flow Meter: INS-FM17N Coolant Flow Meter

Optional. Personal preference. I, personally, find this usefulness, but that's up to you. To make this work you need a Koolance frequency adapter that converts the flow meter's signal to RPM, making it measurable by the mother board or fan controller.


[*] Reservoir: FrozenQ Liquid Fusion Dual Bay Reservoir - Fluorescent Blue Helix

Optional, but highly recommended. Personal preference.


[*] Pump: Koolance PMP-500 G1/4 Thread Liquid Cooling Pump (PMP-500)

This is a monster! Probably the most powerful single pump in the pc water cooling market. But people says it is very, very noisy. That said, I'd suggest you a PMP 450, because it is very powerful and plenty for your needs, allows upgrades on your loop (the add on of more blocks and radiators shouldn't be an issue with it) and it's very silent.


[*] CPU Block: XSPC RayStorm High Performance Acetal CPU Liquid Cooling Block - Special Edition Copper (Intel) (Sockets LGA 115x / 1366 / 2011)

Very good performance, but there are better performers much cheaper than this one, like the Supremacy's or 380i's. But it is a personal choice...


[*] Motherboard/cpu: MSI Z77A-G45 LGA 1155 with a Intel Core i5-3550 --Currently own

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[*] Graphics card: SAPPHIRE 100354OC-2L Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 CrossFireX Support Video Card --Currently own

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[*] GPU Block: ???

Didn't find one yet, make more searching.


[*] Radiator: Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 Full Copper Quad 120mm Radiator

Nice choice, probably the best brand of radiators. This model is very good, awesome performance!


[*] Rad Grill: PrimoChill Hex 2-Layer Rad Grillz - Quad 120mm - UV Blue / White

Optional. Personal preference.


[*] Fan Controller/Monitor: CW611 - Lamptron

Optional. Personal preference. This is the most recommended brand of controller along with the Aquaero, they are very high quality ones.


[*] PWM Splitter: 8 Way PWM Splitter-Sata (one for case fans and other for radiator fans)

Very good if I'm not mistaken. But, just asking, what are you going to do with this said that your fans aren't PWM?


[*] UV Light: LOGISYS Computer CLK12UV2 12" DUAL UV COLD CATHODE KIT - OEM

Optional. Personal preference.


[*] Tubing: PrimoFlex UV Blue Tubing (more research on sizing)

I suggest the Primochill Advanced LRT, it is one of the best. If it is bigger or equal to 3/8 ID, the size doesn't really matter, chose anyone you want/looks better. Thicker walls means tighter bends, and virse versa.


[*] Anti-kink Coil: PrimoChill Anti-Kink Coil UV Green

Optional. Personal preference, but with the Primochill Advanced LRT you probably won't need this, those hose bends very tightly with no kinks...


[*] Killcoil: IandH Silver KillCoils - Antimicrobial .999 Fine Silver Tubing / Reservoir Strip

I prefer using some premix coolant like the Mayhems X1, because you have the anti-algae of the silver but have too a good anti corrosion in it, but the kill coil is fine.


[*] Cougar Fans (rad) COUGAR CF-V12H Vortex Hydro-Dynamic-Bearing (Fluid) 300,000 Hours 12CM Silent Cooling Fan (currently own four, four more for push/pull config?)

Nice fans. I don't think you would need doing push n' pull, I would wait to see what kind of temperatures you get and, after that, see if more fans are necessary.


[*] Thermal Compound: ???Research required???

I suggest the Gelid GC Extreme, it is always on the top 5 of the round ups.


[*] Fittings: ???Research required???

Buy fittings compatible with your tube size (of course, lol). If barbs, just look at the ID, if compressions, look at the ID and OD. These sizes MUST be equal both on the tube and on the fitting. If you wanna spend a very good amount of money on this buy Bitspower (they are also the most bealtiful and well manufactured), if you wanna go cheap the XSPC are good too.
Edited by Lucas Bezerra - 3/9/14 at 7:16pm
post #5 of 29
Well. to echo some of what's already been mentioned ...

AFAIK there are no full cover blocks for the SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition. Sorry.

No real reason to voltage control a PMP500 pump with the Lamptron. Unlike fan speeds, flow rates have very little effect on temps. You're MUCH better off to get a D5 vario - which is quiet and dependable and plenty powerful of a pump for a typical loop w/ 3-4 blocks or less, - and just set the pump speed using the dial on the back to the fastest speed that suits your noise threshold and leave it there.

Also agree w/ Lucas about the Gelid GC Extreme thermal paste. Good stuff. Might want to also keep in mind that Phobya HeGrease is the exact same TIM, so whichever is cheaper/easier for you to get is the better buy.
Edited by Unicr0nhunter - 3/9/14 at 7:33pm
post #6 of 29
silver kill coils bad for copper, imo everything else is fine for first loop

oh the 7870, the only blocks i found were from EK, but you have to research , or buy a block and see if it fits first like i did. The EK blocks only work on reference design. I hope to watercool my 7870's within 2 weeks
Edited by Maximization - 3/9/14 at 7:41pm
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post #7 of 29
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So if i go with this version of D5 http://martinsliquidlab.org/2011/04/03/koolance-pmp-450-d5-vario-pump/ then I should be able to connect the RPM sense wire along with the the flow meter (separate from the pump) to the lamptron to have an emergency shutoff if something malfunctions correct?

If I don't use a silver kill coil and I just plan to use distilled water then I should just put some PT nuke in it?

Seems like the graphics card is going to be a pain. If there are not full blocks for it then what is normally done to cool the rest of the card?
post #8 of 29
AFAIK the Lamptron doesn't have an "emergency shutoff' capability. You could set up an alarm on a channel. An Aqauero might be more what you are looking for.
post #9 of 29
I second the D5 vario option. Plenty powerful, and quiet to boot.
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So if i go with this version of D5 http://martinsliquidlab.org/2011/04/03/koolance-pmp-450-d5-vario-pump/ then I should be able to connect the RPM sense wire along with the the flow meter (separate from the pump) to the lamptron to have an emergency shutoff if something malfunctions correct?

If I don't use a silver kill coil and I just plan to use distilled water then I should just put some PT nuke in it?

Seems like the graphics card is going to be a pain. If there are not full blocks for it then what is normally done to cool the rest of the card?

For what do you want that flow meter? Safety shutoff?
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