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you really need to look into your ram, i have heard that with r9 290xs that amd struggles, i do not have them yet, i would highly recommend one kit @ 2133+ and boosting your HT

i need to know which slots on your saberkitty you are using,

here is mine at less then optimized ram ( you can hit 10k+physics if you work it )

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/7967347 ( i have hit 9900 phyisics in 3dm11 and a few others have beat me by ~ 50 points )

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/7967347 ( i really have not played with this that much tbh i prefer 3dm11 on my to do list + way older drivers )

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/1167226 ( just another - different volts on different things, )
unfortunately i am in the middle of rebuilding that rig so it is pulled apart atm

you want faster ram + more volts + a bit higher ht

basically you need to play with volts and bench to see what will net you best performance it is a pain, 99% of people are going to tell you " you need an intel " which is easier, but imo no where near as fun to play with

Presumably because I don't own the full product but I can't see what the test you've ran is. The thumbnail is of a submarine but I've not seen that test. I can only compare against Firestrike.
I'm trying to ascertain if earlier assertions that my CPU is throttling are true. I've just done a stock bench (with ram at 1600mhz) and the physics score is 7422 (http://www.3dmark.com/fs/1846974)

EDIT: Found your Firestrike link. Sorry for being dim.
So looking at ours side by side, you've got 500 points on me. I'm guessing that whilst your physics score beats mine it isn't an indicator that I have anything wrong such as throttling?

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/1843654/fs/1167226
Edited by jonnyapps - 3/11/14 at 8:25am
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No offense but 2x 290s are total overkill for 1080p and I'm not sure you would get more performance from your current processor over an overclock 920 you had previously.

It's already been mentioned but your memory could be an issue. Also, I would try overclocking with a mix of FSB and multi to try and see what happens when you boost HT and NB up. There's a thread on this board that shows running a 250Mhz FSB gives optimal performance and an increase in HT could help your GPU from being starved of CPU cycles. I'm not sure $800-1k in GPUs is suitable for a ~$200 CPU , so it's entirely possible you may never get the performance you want.
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I've uploaded a quick video of FC3 which illustrates the issue I'm trying to address. This is on very high settings with 4xMSAA but it makes no difference to the problem if I put it lower. You can see the framerate locking up almost immediately - it pretty much stops for half a second about 5 seconds in and there are various points where it just chokes as I'm driving along.

Link: http://youtu.be/FBkPAuKe3Q0

Machine is at stock except for 1600mhz ram being forced in the bios.
Edited by jonnyapps - 3/11/14 at 4:46pm
post #44 of 76
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The CPU is definitely bottlecking your cards.
It shouldn't though, especially at that frequency.

What did you use to ensure stability at 4.8?

If you get a chance try a few runs on Cinebench r15, With the 3DMark score being so low, I wonder how it would perform on C15.

Just done a quick Cinebench test. Everything at stock (ram 1600mhz). Literally loaded it up and clicked 'run' on the CPU test which I'm assuming is all I needed to do.
Result was 628.
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Thanks for avoiding my suggestion.

Sorry I didn't reply to this but I didn't feel running out and buying a new monitor and completely replacing my new motherboard and processor was going to be a step I'd immediately take to resolve issues I'm having with a current setup!

@Mega - do you mean which slots for the GPUs? If so I'm using 1+4 (is it 4 or 3, I forget) to distance them from one another and avoid heat problems. I believe all the PCIe slots are 16x on this board.
In terms of RAM - my initial tests I was using all the slots giving dual channel of 6GB each. Current tests I'm in 1 and 3 (if one is nearest CPU).
ill make it easy, what color slots are you using for your gpus ?
all slots are not x16 though !

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No offense but 2x 290s are total overkill for 1080p and I'm not sure you would get more performance from your current processor over an overclock 920 you had previously.

It's already been mentioned but your memory could be an issue. Also, I would try overclocking with a mix of FSB and multi to try and see what happens when you boost HT and NB up. There's a thread on this board that shows running a 250Mhz FSB gives optimal performance and an increase in HT could help your GPU from being starved of CPU cycles. I'm not sure $800-1k in GPUs is suitable for a ~$200 CPU , so it's entirely possible you may never get the performance you want.

yea no, no perf boost from any fsb vs multis i have done them all, only difference is fsb usually requires more volts so it runs hotter, however it does give you access to different speeds, only reason i run 300 FSB is unlike my sabertooth or my CVFz the UD7 does not offer a 2400 ram multi, cause giga likes to make me mad,
but the advantage to it is i can run 2700 cpu/nb 3900HT all stable, i may get better perf outta lower ht oc, but i have not seen any performance degradation yet however i would like time to do more tests, with that said i have done probably some of the most tests ever in that area, esp since not many chips can do that i can test it very well for stability using DVDFAB prime tends not to ketch issues from ht OC nor does ibt-avx
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Just done a quick Cinebench test. Everything at stock (ram 1600mhz). Literally loaded it up and clicked 'run' on the CPU test which I'm assuming is all I needed to do.
Result was 628.

Perfectly normal at stock speeds, now compare your 4.8 overclock and see if you get an improvement. If you do, then a significant improvement, then there was never any throttling, but if you dont see a significant improvement, then you just had a bad overclock. That's where Sgt. Bilko and others might be able to help you out.
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ill make it easy, what color slots are you using for your gpus ?
all slots are not x16 though !
yea no, no perf boost from any fsb vs multis i have done them all, only difference is fsb usually requires more volts so it runs hotter, however it does give you access to different speeds, only reason i run 300 FSB is unlike my sabertooth or my CVFz the UD7 does not offer a 2400 ram multi, cause giga likes to make me mad,
but the advantage to it is i can run 2700 cpu/nb 3900HT all stable, i may get better perf outta lower ht oc, but i have not seen any performance degradation yet however i would like time to do more tests, with that said i have done probably some of the most tests ever in that area, esp since not many chips can do that i can test it very well for stability using DVDFAB prime tends not to ketch issues from ht OC nor does ibt-avx

I just leapt out of bed to check this (2am here) thinking you'd found the solution and yes i had indeed put it in slot 4. Embarrassing but great to have a solution, I thought, until I tried FC3 with the cards in 1+3 (both white) and it was exactly the same again.

I will test all other games and benches again now it's in the correct slot as I'm sure you're identifying of my stupidity must give improvements elsewhere.

In an effort to save a tiny slither of respect I'd like to point out it does say 'pcie x16 4' on the mobo.
Edited by jonnyapps - 3/11/14 at 7:05pm
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Just done a quick Cinebench test. Everything at stock (ram 1600mhz). Literally loaded it up and clicked 'run' on the CPU test which I'm assuming is all I needed to do.
Result was 628.

Perfectly normal at stock speeds, now compare your 4.8 overclock and see if you get an improvement. If you do, then a significant improvement, then there was never any throttling, but if you dont see a significant improvement, then you just had a bad overclock. That's where Sgt. Bilko and others might be able to help you out.

also it helps to be 100% stable !
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interesting read, now waiting on some different results from jonnyapps thumb.gif

will 2 r9 290x kill a AMD FX-8350 ?
Edited by ladcrooks - 3/11/14 at 10:42pm
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interesting read, now waiting on some different results from jonnyapps thumb.gif

will 2 r9 290x kill a AMD FX-8350 ?
no red1776 is about to do a quadfire build with them
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FX 6100 Sabertooth 990fx R2.0 XFX 7770 Core Edition Samsung 1600 2x4 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 1600 2x4 Unknown as of now  Piorneer BDR-208DBK Swiftech H220  
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 8  Samsung 60" 120hz 3d LED TV Unknown Seasonic x750 
CaseMouseAudio
Cooler Master Storm Stryker Unknown Pioneer 5.1 
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