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So, being in the military, more speciically the Navy gives one a certain challenge in regards to size. I am a fan of all things AMD, as they seem to always do more with less, and so I am as well attempting the more with less mentality.

Raven RVZ01
Antec kuhler 620 or Silverstone NT06-pro
2400MHz ram, either 8 or 16 GB
Silverstone 600w SFX PSU when it releases
240GB SSD for OS and games
120GB SSD for games
1 TB HDD for storage
Radeon R9 290

What I already have
A10 7850K
Gigabyte A88XN-Wifi

I will not be OC'ing the GPU, ever, just CPU so I might get away with the 450W SFX unit and save some bones.

I have omitted the slim drive as I am looking for a Blu Ray drive that isn't $150+

What do you think?

I put a lot of weight into a CM Elite 130, but it is still quite boxy, and I just don't know if that is a solution I want. What I want is something that can be thrown in a backpack ala LAN style.
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post #2 of 10
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Originally Posted by agrims View Post

So, being in the military, more speciically the Navy gives one a certain challenge in regards to size. I am a fan of all things AMD, as they seem to always do more with less, and so I am as well attempting the more with less mentality.

Raven RVZ01
Antec kuhler 620 or Silverstone NT06-pro
2400MHz ram, either 8 or 16 GB
Silverstone 600w SFX PSU when it releases
240GB SSD for OS and games
120GB SSD for games
1 TB HDD for storage
Radeon R9 290

What I already have
A10 7850K
Gigabyte A88XN-Wifi

I will not be OC'ing the GPU, ever, just CPU so I might get away with the 450W SFX unit and save some bones.

I have omitted the slim drive as I am looking for a Blu Ray drive that isn't $150+

What do you think?

I put a lot of weight into a CM Elite 130, but it is still quite boxy, and I just don't know if that is a solution I want. What I want is something that can be thrown in a backpack ala LAN style.

I think that a 290 is going to generate a lot of heat/use a lot of power in such a small package..
It depends on what type of 290 you get, but if you get a non-blower style it'll be really hot inside the case generally due to the heat being dumped out.
And if you go with a reference one it'll be super loud..
I'm not sure how great the APU is for gaming, but I'd bet that it'd go better paired with a 280x maybe? Ideally a 290 would be better, but a 280x makes more sense as it uses quite a bit less power (less strain on the PSU) and runs cooler/quieter.
 
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post #3 of 10
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I put a lot of weight to the 280X, but it is not XDMA compatible, and AMD has stated that unoffically the A10 and the R9 290 will run well together through XDMA at some point. When that is or will be is to be seen, but others have seen good GPU usage out of the A10 and the R9 290 now, with beta drivers, so one can only hope that things will get better.

So that is why I set my sights on it. I am not too worried with heat, as the case is positive pressure, and there are 2 intake fans directly under the GPU, as well as the GPU section is quasi partitioned off from the rest of the case due to the riser assembly, and the exhaust vents directly to the right. You are right about the PSU and strain, and that is why even if I go 600W when they release it, I won't be OC'ing the GPU. I play at 1080p anyways, as the ship LAN parties are ran on 1080p, but will eventually have a 1600p monitor for myself, and don't want to dump money on another GPU for several years.
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post #4 of 10
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Originally Posted by agrims View Post

I put a lot of weight to the 280X, but it is not XDMA compatible, and AMD has stated that unoffically the A10 and the R9 290 will run well together through XDMA at some point. When that is or will be is to be seen, but others have seen good GPU usage out of the A10 and the R9 290 now, with beta drivers, so one can only hope that things will get better.

So that is why I set my sights on it. I am not too worried with heat, as the case is positive pressure, and there are 2 intake fans directly under the GPU, as well as the GPU section is quasi partitioned off from the rest of the case due to the riser assembly, and the exhaust vents directly to the right. You are right about the PSU and strain, and that is why even if I go 600W when they release it, I won't be OC'ing the GPU. I play at 1080p anyways, as the ship LAN parties are ran on 1080p, but will eventually have a 1600p monitor for myself, and don't want to dump money on another GPU for several years.

Oh well if you're going with 1600p the 290 will be better. What kind of card do you plan to roll with though? (As in what brand/model?) I personally have heard good things about the TRIX by Sapphire for the price.

I would push for that 600W PSU too, you can get in some light overclocking with it however. Say 1050/1400MHz or something if you get a decent card without bumping up the voltage (Power usage will still go up, just not lots). And a small nice OC out of the CPU.
 
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post #5 of 10
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I am debating the Tri X, or a PCS+, as I have read that the PCS+ is 2.5 slots thick, not quite 2, not quite 3, and at 2.5 slots, it will still theoretically give me enough space in the case to add the 2 intake fans, as they are only 15mm thick. I also have been eyeing the MSI Gaming, as the card is much cheaper.
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Originally Posted by agrims View Post

I am debating the Tri X, or a PCS+, as I have read that the PCS+ is 2.5 slots thick, not quite 2, not quite 3, and at 2.5 slots, it will still theoretically give me enough space in the case to add the 2 intake fans, as they are only 15mm thick. I also have been eyeing the MSI Gaming, as the card is much cheaper.

I've heard on here that the MSI Gaming's have issues with leaking heatpipes? I dunno, I've never seen one, and one of my housemates has a 760 with the MSI cooler and it feels/looks pretty good. It also looks really good too.

I'd say look at the reviews personally and go for the best running one (in terms of temperature and noise).

15mm fans? Wow they're really thin fan you plan to run.. No reason why you can't fit standard 25's?

I had a 2.5 slot 7950 (sort of) and it was a PITA. Just thick enough to block something like soundcard/Network card from being put below it. Obviously this isn't the case for you but I'm just pointing that out there.
 
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post #7 of 10
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I'm running what comes with the case, the Silverstone Raven RVZ01 is maybe 2 inches deeper, 1.5" wider, and 3" taller than an Xbox 360. Small case, big punch! I have heard a lot from the MSI Gaming series cards, so I have plenty of time left before purchase, like 5-6 months or more! I am hoping that the prices drop by then!
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post #8 of 10
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I'm running what comes with the case, the Silverstone Raven RVZ01 is maybe 2 inches deeper, 1.5" wider, and 3" taller than an Xbox 360. Small case, big punch! I have heard a lot from the MSI Gaming series cards, so I have plenty of time left before purchase, like 5-6 months or more! I am hoping that the prices drop by then!

We can only hope haha, RAM prices might be nice to see drop too.
PC's cost so much to build compared to what they did 12-24 months ago, graphics cards/RAM have essentially doubled in price. thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif
 
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post #9 of 10
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Well both of those price hikes are man made unfortunately... But we will see! I am hopeful to say the least and there are deals to be had currently if you look hard enough!
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Well both of those price hikes are man made unfortunately... But we will see! I am hopeful to say the least and there are deals to be had currently if you look hard enough!

Oh of course, it does depend where you are unfortunately for me. Aussie prices aren't bad on graphics cards considering it's usually more for a card here, but they're a lot higher on RAM right now.
 
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