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And Mulling 3 options about it...

Currently rocking the 2410 I got several years ago, I love it, Sure its got some motion blur, but I can manage. The colors and everything are great (I have it calibrated), even the black level isnt that shabby, But lately I've been wanting... Well.. more...

Partially it was my Alienware's TN panel which does admittedly look a bit smoother when things move (albeit its still 60hz) and playing games on my 60" 120hz TV which likewise, do look a lot smoother (Albeit keep in mind its a TV and I didnt spend a whole lot of time dialing it in to look/work best with my PC, I think i left my refresh rate set at 60hz)

I game, I do photography (But then the 2410 can be used for that) I multitask a lot of windows at once, I like my blacks black and im sensitive to motion blur, and I like things nice and sharp and crisp

The problem I have is I cant decide what I want more... But I have some ideas!

Option 1: Stay 1080p, Go 120/144hz TN, This is obviously the cheapest route from what I am seeing, but I'm not sure its a great option, I'm simply not sure on it having a "wow" factor when i pop it on and I'm afraid of not liking how the colors and everything look after working with my gorgeous calibrated IPS display for so long, On the plus side it wont change that I can easily churn out 60fps solid in just about every title maxed at the moment which means I'll also get the full benefit of the 144hz. (I'm really not into the idea of upgrading my GPU 2 months after I just did after all...) For this option Im looking at the Asus VG248QE specifically.

Option 2: Go 1440p, This will definitely have some wow factor if only from the fact I'd have a 27" monitor sitting on my desk, But I'm concerned in the future I might be a bit "meh" towards the fact Im still dealing with a 60hz panel, but then again my GTX770 is also going to be pushed a bit harder in this situation, From what I'm reading it should be completely doable to get good enough (30-45fps average) frames on even very demanding titles by dropping AA (Which you can do because of the higher resolution making everything smoother) but how long will this last? I tend to go for a 2-ish year cycle on my GPU upgrades (I made it almost 3 this time..) But that said theres a large part of me that says 1440p might make more visual impact to me, but then again I also ponder if im going to notice the extra 240 lines of resolution at all.... For monitors Im looking at what are the typical choices, Dell's U2713HM(Last 3 monitors have been Dell, 2 of them are still being used on a daily basis, my 2410 has literally been on 24/7 for the last 3 years and shows not a ill sign for it), Asus' PB278Q and the QNIX one that everyone says is amazing (Which makes me nervous because I er.. have no experience with them and long term reliability, see the "24/7 last three years" comment)

Option 3: Wait for 4k and OLED to get down in price and GPUs to catch up, This will DEFINITELY have the wow factor to it, I can see 4k being awesome for PC gaming because we have the content, But the GPUs arent there yet and wont be for a couple of years at least, But if the other options arent going to make a good impact over what I'm running now it might not be a bad idea to wait it out a little, Plus that might coincide with my next GPU (and very likely CPU) upgrade wherein i can actually tailor the system to performing at the resolution I want to run (Whereas right now I upgraded this under the assumption of 1200p gaming, if I was going for 1440p I'd have gone for the 780 not the 770)


Actually thats a good point, is there a hugely noticable difference between 1200p and 1440p? I forget my monitor is 1920x1200 not 1920x1080, So is that an actual factor in this calculation or no? I cant say I've seen much more than text on a 2560x1440 display in reality...
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As for option 1 I can't really give any input on that.

Option 2: I switched from 2 1080p screens (24" and 21") to a single ACHIEVA Shimian QH270-Lite 27" (Price shot up so much now, Sale date: 09/07/12 $289 Free shipping). I much prefer this setup, even going from 2 monitors to 1 I didn't really feel limited with screen real estate, it also fits my desk much better. I can't imagine your 770 having any problems. My 660TI with a mild overclock plays most games on very high settings with good frame rates at 1440p. I'm quite satisfied with all the games I play (Thief Reloaded, Borderlands 2, Guildwars 2, Rift, FF ARR, Battlefield 3, only ones I can think of that I've played recently). I think processor has a bigger role in gaming then most people acknowledge, of course its a game by game basis on where your bottle neck is so it really depends. For instance I've noticed that Guild Wars 2 is very cpu dependent, particularly your single core clock speed so I noticed FPS improvements when I overclocked my cpu up another .3 GHz.

I do graphic design work, photo editing, cad modeling, cad animation on this monitor and the extra pixels are great. It's nice to be able to see something at full res 1080p that doesn't take up your entire screen.

The price right now to me is personally a big issue. This display rocks and I paid under $300 for it with 2 day shipping from Korea. Now they are going for nearly $500 and hell pixel perfect versions are over $800 on eBay right now. If you hunt around I'm sure you can find something under $400 from a good seller and it would still probably be worth doing.

Option 3: I've read about a few different monitors from various manufacturers that are around the $700-$800 dollar mark for 4k. Still seems quite expensive for the budget edge, but you are paying the early adopter fee. Chances are you'd have to do a significant GPU upgrade if you wanted high settings for gaming. Thus being said my next monitor will most likely be 4k, but that won't be for a few years, unless my current monitor gives out then I'd have to debate what to do, most likely another budget 1440p display, I don't think I could go back to 1080p.
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Option 3 was based on the assumption of waiting a year and a half versus doing something now-ish, and then putting the money into a full 4k system upgrade to take full advantage of it, Basically not bothering to do an upgrade now and sticking with what I had until then (Because hey, Not going to lie, the 2410 is a really nice monitor)

I also was going to wait a hair to see the first GSync stuff (as I am a fairly dedicated nVidia guy...) But I'm thinking thats going to be hecka pricey

As for the games, i do a lot of things like Rome Total War II, Company of Heroes 2 and that which are -very- graphics demanding.. That said neither needs 60fps to be smooth (CoH2 is fine at 30-40fps) and with the higher resolution i can scale back my AA, Also World of Tanks which, as you mentioned above, is highly CPU bottlenecked

I'm not exactly in a massive rush, I am collecting my info, thinking about it and also browsing on Dell a lot (To try to trigger a coupon, its what I did when i ordered my M17x and ended up getting a very, VERY large chunk of change knocked off of it)
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Still looking over things. Found I can easily get the Dell for about $600 at Best Buy which surprised me (Thats $50 lower than Newegg)

Stared and poured over Toms Hardware stuff. Should be able to manage 1440p just fine (Seems to be biggest thing is turn down AA at 1440p, Which is ok because you dont NEED AA as much at 1440p)
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Came close to ordering the 2713HM and lost my nerve again...

To repeat what i said somewhere else

See this is why i cant decide on a monitor...

The Asus 278 is out because I'm fairly sure ill get annoyed by the backlight thing

QNix stuff just.. Not ok with the idea of it the more I read on it...

The Dell has people who love it and people who keep saying its terribad for playing any games on it

The new 120hz Asus one isnt out till June and while it looks neat im expecting teething issues, and its $800 which is really pushing my budget, and I cant run most games at 1440p at above 60fps so the 120hz thing is probubly a moot point at this time

the Viewsonic 27" one that one guy at HardOCP pushes hard looks like a cheap piece of junk to me, Which I dont like on a $700 screen, Also the reviews on it at Newegg are only so-so and it only seems to be a small VERY militant group that are pushing that thing down peoples throats....Seems like Viewsonic has support issues as well.. Just really dont like it.

The 24" 120hz+ panels are all TN and the more I look at them the more Im simply thinking 120hz at the same resolution isnt the "wow" factor i want...

I'm not really in the mood to play musical monitor madness buying and returning 20 screens till i find one just right :/
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