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VS is a little bit better overall

I did compare them

http://www.overclock.net/t/1430448/4-mid-range-psu-s-compared

awesome review, exactly what I was looking for, as i was checking out the Corsair RM as well. looks like the clear winner for an extended budget if i choose to go with 2 GPUs is the V750s, and the G-550 if i decide to tighten my budget a little bit, and stick with one card.
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post #32 of 53
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another thing, is there any advantage at all to using a lower capacity psu vs one with more headroom in terms of efficiency? i just saw the Seasonic X460 fanless, and its appealing to me a bit, but it costs the same as the G-550. i realize now i probably wont add another card for crossfire, and future GPUs like the 8xx series will probably consume less power anyway, so kinda no point getting anything over 550 watts.
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post #33 of 53
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Originally Posted by Spade616 View Post

another thing, is there any advantage at all to using a lower capacity psu vs one with more headroom in terms of efficiency? i just saw the Seasonic X460 fanless, and its appealing to me a bit, but it costs the same as the G-550. i realize now i probably wont add another card for crossfire, and future GPUs like the 8xx series will probably consume less power anyway, so kinda no point getting anything over 550 watts.

The Super Flower Golden Silent is often a better option as its cheaper and does pretty much as well

Its just harder to find thats all

Comes in 430 and 500 watts

Rosewill and Kingwin have rebranded it
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post #34 of 53
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Originally Posted by shilka View Post

The Super Flower Golden Silent is often a better option as its cheaper and does pretty much as well

Its just harder to find thats all

Comes in 430 and 500 watts

Rosewill and Kingwin have rebranded it

i dont think i can get that over here, but i have read great things about it. what would your verdict be between the Seasonic X460 vs G-550? redface.gif
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post #35 of 53
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i dont think i can get that over here, but i have read great things about it. what would your verdict be between the Seasonic X460 vs G-550? redface.gif

The risk of coil whine on the X would put me off and i would go with a G myself

Not saying the X is bad or all X units has coil whine i would just not want to take the risk

The G is still better then pretty much every other mid range PSU besides the semi modular Cooler Master V
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post #36 of 53
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Originally Posted by Spade616 View Post

another thing, is there any advantage at all to using a lower capacity psu vs one with more headroom in terms of efficiency? i just saw the Seasonic X460 fanless, and its appealing to me a bit, but it costs the same as the G-550. i realize now i probably wont add another card for crossfire, and future GPUs like the 8xx series will probably consume less power anyway, so kinda no point getting anything over 550 watts.

 

The advantage is that you maximize your average efficiency and you get the longest life possible out of your PSU. That's why when it comes to PSUs, overkill is not a good thing. The only time you want your maximum power consumption to be at roughly 50% is when that power consumption is constant, or happening 24/7 (such as Mining, Folding, etc.).

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post #37 of 53
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Originally Posted by shilka View Post

The risk of coil whine on the X would put me off and i would go with a G myself

Not saying the X is bad or all X units has coil whine i would just not want to take the risk

The G is still better then pretty much every other mid range PSU besides the semi modular Cooler Master V

alright that sounds good. im definitely looking into the 450-550 watt range for my final decision. biggrin.gif
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The advantage is that you maximize your average efficiency and you get the longest life possible out of your PSU. That's why when it comes to PSUs, overkill is not a good thing. The only time you want your maximum power consumption to be at roughly 50% is when that power consumption is constant, or happening 24/7 (such as Mining, Folding, etc.).

oh, i never knew that. i always assumed that more=better. redface.gif so bottom line, the ideal situation would be to have a psu that runs at a minimum of 50% load constantly, like when im torrenting, and about 70% load when doing more intensive, but not constant stuff, like gaming.
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post #38 of 53
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alright that sounds good. im definitely looking into the 450-550 watt range for my final decision. biggrin.gif
oh, i never knew that. i always assumed that more=better. redface.gif so bottom line, the ideal situation would be to have a psu that runs at a minimum of 50% load constantly, like when im torrenting, and about 70% load when doing more intensive, but not constant stuff, like gaming.

 

I don't know how much power is consumed while torrenting, but I'm uploading a video to YouTube right now and my power consumption only went up by a few watts. I think. I didn't check how much power was being consumed before, but it's not much different from what I normally see while my computer is idling.

 

Anyway, if you only game for a few hours per day (I forgot to ask), then I would say that your gaming power consumption should probably be at maybe 80-90% of the PSU's total advertised capacity. After all, the rest of the time the power draw will be significantly lower.

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post #39 of 53
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I don't know how much power is consumed while torrenting, but I'm uploading a video to YouTube right now and my power consumption only went up by a few watts. I think. I didn't check how much power was being consumed before, but it's not much different from what I normally see while my computer is idling.

Anyway, if you only game for a few hours per day (I forgot to ask), then I would say that your gaming power consumption should probably be at maybe 80-90% of the PSU's total advertised capacity. After all, the rest of the time the power draw will be significantly lower.

I only game for about 3-6 hours/day. So I guess the golden wattage range for me would be about 450-550watts. just to reiterate, im gonna want a psu that runs 50% constantly and about 70% when maxing out yes? redface.gif anyway, i sure learned alot from this thread. thank you so much thumb.gif
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To put it simply: if you have the 270X's voltage at stock and if you're going to leave the 2500K at 4.3 GHz, then you could easily power this with no problems and get maximum average efficiency with a good quality-made 400W PSU. A good 450W PSU would be fine too (and it would probably be easier to find), but a good 550W PSU would be a waste of money unless you wanted to start overclocking the 270X and also overvolt it. Of course, then you might want to step it up to a good 650W PSU just to be safe (because I honestly don't know how much the power consumption would change with the 270X overvolted).

 

So yeah, a good 400-450W PSU is all you'd need unless you're planning on getting something that's the equivalent of the 290X or GTX 780 Ti or of you plan on overclocking and overvolting the 270X.

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