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post #11 of 20
Phenom is K10 architecture built on the 45nm process, based on socket AM3.

Athlons are lower down parts.

FX - Higher performance, no iGPU, L3 cache.
A-series - Integrated graphics, no L3 cache, limited to quad cores
Athlon (FM2 series) - A-series just without the iGPU.

However the older Athlons, Athlon II series is slightly different. But yeah forget Phenoms and old Athlon IIs, hard to come by and older biggrin.gif
Edited by mikeo01 - 3/10/14 at 4:08pm
post #12 of 20
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Originally Posted by mikeo01 View Post

Phenom is K10 architecture built on the 45nm process, based on socket AM3.

Athlons are lower down parts.

FX - Higher performance, no iGPU, L3 cache.
A-series - Integrated graphics, no L2 cache, limited to quad cores
Athlon (FM2 series) - A-series just without the iGPU.

However the older Athlons, Athlon II series is slightly different. But yeah forget Phenoms and old Athlon IIs, hard to come by and older biggrin.gif


A-series has L2 cache. No L3 though.
post #13 of 20
Ah cheers for mentioning that, I meant L3 cache tongue.gif SORRY. Edited*
post #14 of 20
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I have a follow up to OP
Is the phenom series the same as the athlon? Or is it a different series? Like how apu's are different to the fx

The new Athlons are just A series processors with the iGPU disabled. The OLD Athlons were cut down Phenom processors, and the REALLY OLD Athlons were their own thing that was the best consumer processors of their time (939 socket stuff)



For a budget build the FX-63x0 is still probably the best choice.
Edited by EniGma1987 - 3/10/14 at 4:22pm
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post #15 of 20
* FX-8320 is probably the best choice for a budget FX build
* A Kaveri based CPU is best as HTPC and gaming on iGPU (consider good gaming up-to say 720p or may-be 900p), prefer this or equivalent Anthlon for a quad core AMD build.

The savings on a 6350/6300 vs a 8320 are there but not enough that you can buy a better GPU for that saved money, 8320 is the best option of all of the above. The person who'll use it will never complain (you should at-least provide it with a hyper 212 evo to get away with temp issues).
    
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* FX-8320 is probably the best choice for a budget FX build
* A Kaveri based CPU is best as HTPC and gaming on iGPU (consider good gaming up-to say 720p or may-be 900p), prefer this or equivalent Anthlon for a quad core AMD build.

The savings on a 6350/6300 vs a 8320 are there but not enough that you can buy a better GPU for that saved money, 8320 is the best option of all of the above. The person who'll use it will never complain (you should at-least provide it with a hyper 212 evo to get away with temp issues).


just to be clear.

are you saying that the 8320 is a better buy only due to the fact that its a $20 difference to the 6350?
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just to be clear.

are you saying that the 8320 is a better buy only due to the fact that its a $20 difference to the 6350?
Yeah, $20 for two extra cores, isn't it a great bargain?

The performance difference will be evident. With recent games very capable of utilizing 8 threads it'll be a great benefit of having 8-cores over 6-cores along with a very good potential of overclocking.
    
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post #18 of 20
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* FX-8320 is probably the best choice for a budget FX build
* A Kaveri based CPU is best as HTPC and gaming on iGPU (consider good gaming up-to say 720p or may-be 900p), prefer this or equivalent Anthlon for a quad core AMD build.

The savings on a 6350/6300 vs a 8320 are there but not enough that you can buy a better GPU for that saved money, 8320 is the best option of all of the above. The person who'll use it will never complain (you should at-least provide it with a hyper 212 evo to get away with temp issues).

I'm not 100% sure even a Hyper 212 evo would be enough to keep it cool enough sometimes with an 8 core chip.
8 core chips do run rather warm and can heat up in a hurry meaning if running such a cooler, you'd best have some good airflow through the case or you'll simply be recycling air that's already warm through the cooler ='ing trouble from that standpoint.

I'd suggest going with one of the watercooling kits with an 8 core chip. The CPU will run cooler along with the rest of the components in the case. With either a 4 or 6 core chip, you can run it on air and be OK, esp with the 4 core.

Can't say for 100% certain about a 6 core since I don't have one of those for reference but I think it would be OK overall on air but be sure it's a good cooler, not a stock or cheap aftermarket unit.
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post #19 of 20
Hyper 212 EVO or 212X should easily handle the 8320/8350 at stock, with a good airflow it'll even handle a mild OC. It's a very good cooler, many people here in India are using that to keep their stock clocked 8-cores cool (remember that normal winter temps are also near 25*-30* C, in summer it easily goes to 35*-40* C)
    
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Yeah a evo 212 is enough to cool a 8350 at stock. I use one on my 8350 and can manage a comfortable mild overclock at 4.4GHz and 4.5GHz at a push in the winter.
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