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So here's a question - I'm collecting parts and figuring out the roadmap for my next computer, and I'd like the option to run tri-SLI. Everything I've read about the PLX solution for that seems to indicate that going with a 2011 solution for the additional lanes is by far a better way to go. That said, if I'm not doing a ton of video encoding, etc (a little but certainly not a lot) is there any real advantage to going with an 8-core over 6-core processor? From what I'm reading, it might even be better in terms of speed to go with the 6-core due to heat (dunno if that's a correct statement, please correct me if I'm mistaken.)
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So here's a question - I'm collecting parts and figuring out the roadmap for my next computer, and I'd like the option to run tri-SLI. Everything I've read about the PLX solution for that seems to indicate that going with a 2011 solution for the additional lanes is by far a better way to go. That said, if I'm not doing a ton of video encoding, etc (a little but certainly not a lot) is there any real advantage to going with an 8-core over 6-core processor? From what I'm reading, it might even be better in terms of speed to go with the 6-core due to heat (dunno if that's a correct statement, please correct me if I'm mistaken.)

If you're looking to buy now, your only real options are the 4820k and 4930k, which are 4 and 6 core models, respectively. The 4820k retail is somewhere around $300, the 4930k retail is somewhere around $600.

If you're looking at Haswell-E, there's not enough information yet on the pricing of the models, and what models will be released.
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I personally don't feel there is a need to go beyond a quad core as of right now for most PC users. The exceptions are of course video encoding/rendering and benchmarking. I know for a fact that I have no use for my 4930K other than to get the highest bench score possible. My old 2600K is more than adequate to play all the games I own and even to render the videos I record for my MegaTechPC channel. The 4930K is definitely faster but the 2600K is adequate. An 8-core will simply be more of the same with insane bench numbers and even lower render times but gaming and regular use will still be the same as on a 4/6 core.

The near future though is where more cores will start to matter even more in gaming as the new consoles have 8 core processors in them and its only a matter of time before developers start to tap all of that processing power from them. That in turn will lead to better core usage in PC's (we can already see some of that with games like Crysis 3 and BF4 where more cores actually translates into higher FPS)....
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If you're looking to buy now, your only real options are the 4820k and 4930k, which are 4 and 6 core models, respectively. The 4820k retail is somewhere around $300, the 4930k retail is somewhere around $600.

If you're looking at Haswell-E, there's not enough information yet on the pricing of the models, and what models will be released.

I'm not buying anything until this summer or fall, planning on Haswell-E. Right now I'm just collecting the non-core bits and educating myself, as this will be my first watercooled PC.
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.. Just upgrade because it's fun! And hey this OCN! thumb.gif

And don't tell your significant other what PC parts actually cost.. Lol

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I'm not buying anything until this summer or fall, planning on Haswell-E. Right now I'm just collecting the non-core bits and educating myself, as this will be my first watercooled PC.

I hope you don't mind some advice I wish someone would have gave to me, it's possible they did and I don't remember because I was so excited so I just ignored them.

Anyway, the advice is go modest. My first watercooling experience was 3 loops, 23 fans, 2 fan controllers, lcd, a jumbo package of mdpc sleeving. Be honest about how much aesthetics really matters to you and how rarely you will actually have the opportunity to show it off (I'm 100% solid side panel now, fast is what's important to me now).

Lots of things I learned afterwards would have completely changed the build and saved me probably several thousand dollars.

It's quite fun but actually much more work than you think, some will say it's the good kind of work, but at some point I said ok enough pretifying I just want to use the thing.

Good luck!
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I hope you don't mind some advice I wish someone would have gave to me, it's possible they did and I don't remember because I was so excited so I just ignored them.

Anyway, the advice is go modest. My first watercooling experience was 3 loops, 23 fans, 2 fan controllers, lcd, a jumbo package of mdpc sleeving. Be honest about how much aesthetics really matters to you and how rarely you will actually have the opportunity to show it off (I'm 100% solid side panel now, fast is what's important to me now).

Lots of things I learned afterwards would have completely changed the build and saved me probably several thousand dollars.

It's quite fun but actually much more work than you think, some will say it's the good kind of work, but at some point I said ok enough pretifying I just want to use the thing.

Good luck!

I don't want to misdirect this thread, but since you brought it up smile.gif

I do not care about showing it off. At all. I want fast, and that is all I care about. So far the only pieces I've bought are the case (CaseLabs Mercury S8 with solid sides wink.gif and extended drop-in top for two 360mm radiators in push-pull), the power supply (AX1200i) and the fans (Noctua NF-P12 PWM). I'm planning on a single loop, CPU and dual GPU, with the possibility of a third GPU. I don't care about sleeving anything, I just care about keeping wires out of the way of the airflow. I also intend on getting a lot more information before I get it all purchased and built, although not in this thread. wink.gif
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I remember the 2 vs 4 core debates when quads came out. I'm glad I opted for the Q9550 which I still have in use today. I'm going to need more info on Haswell-E before I decide on 6 vs 8 but if we get everything we hoped for I'm going all in on this build. I want to try to reduce the number of rigs down to one. If the lower clocks on the 8 cores don't hurt gaming noticeably then that's probably the one.
i went from pentium 4 3ghz HT 4 years ago to a q9550 a year ago, and now i am waiting on 5930 8 core, as that will be the q9550 of next decade.
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Thing is, the argument was primarily centered around a higher Ghz dual-core vs a lower Ghz quad-core, and in those days, the higher Ghz dual-core would perform better in most games. Now, if you had a high Ghz quad-core, there's no argument that that's better. But a high Ghz dual-core would have been better than a low Ghz quad-core, and still would be better for most games today.
yep, its just that q9550 oced out of box from 2.83ghz to 3,6ghz and even over 4ghz if you had proper dram and coolings
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So here's a question - I'm collecting parts and figuring out the roadmap for my next computer, and I'd like the option to run tri-SLI. Everything I've read about the PLX solution for that seems to indicate that going with a 2011 solution for the additional lanes is by far a better way to go. That said, if I'm not doing a ton of video encoding, etc (a little but certainly not a lot) is there any real advantage to going with an 8-core over 6-core processor? From what I'm reading, it might even be better in terms of speed to go with the 6-core due to heat (dunno if that's a correct statement, please correct me if I'm mistaken.)
8core over 6core, yes futureproofing. yeah 8 core will be more heat, but the ipc is high enough to really not matter in comparison to 6 core.

best
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Only 4 DIMM slots and only 1 stick per channel :/ Granted that's not surprising, considering it's the DDR4 thing. I guess I'll be sitting on mine until something comes along that supports more than 64 GB of RAM without having to cough up excessive amounts of ECC sticks.
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Only 4 DIMM slots and only 1 stick per channel :/ Granted that's not surprising, considering it's the DDR4 thing. I guess I'll be sitting on mine until something comes along that supports more than 64 GB of RAM without having to cough up excessive amounts of ECC sticks.

is that normal not to have 64GB memory support?
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