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5960x/ddr4/x99/2-3 880s/rog swift/caselabs s8

Waiting sucks.
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You're right - I've been looking for an excuse to upgrade my girlfriends 2700k + 7970 rig but seeing it ease through BF4 MP it's hard to justify.

I think people forget mainstream socket i7's still have 8 threads...

With the worlds push for lower power consumption chips I think my poor SB-E system wont be retired for a really long time. Even with DDR4 coming out, the gains from my 3960x with ram running at 2400 CL9-10-10-28 T1 I doubt there will be any noticeable difference outside of a benchmark that spits out a number.

I also don't need 10 USB ports....
ur probably spent double/triple of my i5-2500k cost on that platform, but that doesnt really get use much on gaming, in 3-5years, using the exta saving I had, upgrading to another mainstream platform. I probably end up on a platform much better than any SB-E lol

Skymont 6 core @ mainstream socket would probably destroy any SB-E biggrin.gif

I think I am gonna do this on GPU as well, just buy a $150 GPU, upgrade it more often than buying a $700 GPU.biggrin.gif
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Just keeping my fingers crossed for a $550-$650 8-core K model.

10x sata 3 is pretty nice though for the people who need it.

That's what a lot of people want, including me. An 8 core 5960k ~$600 is a fantastic way to jump over Intel's refreshes for a while. But it's a shame they didn't include Sata Express, in a year or 2 at most everything is going to have it. Why should I have to buy an add in controller and have 10 useless SATA III slots on my expensive long term investment? Isn't the long term use one of the main points? There are other designated platforms for Intel to pull planned obsolescence on.

EDIT: Took too long typing and now it looks like I'm hating on Clocknut. It's a marvelous strategy if a $150 GPU meets your standards for the whole time, but it's likely there will be a couple months where you want to upgrade, and you're stuck because you know something good is right around the corner. Then again, if you're willing to pay the price of not paying the price there's nothing wrong with this.
Edited by cookieboyeli - 3/10/14 at 8:22pm
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ur probably spent double/triple of my i5-2500k cost on that platform, but that doesnt really get use much on gaming, in 3-5years, using the exta saving I had, upgrading to another mainstream platform. I probably end up on a platform much better than any SB-E lol

Skymont 6 core @ mainstream socket would probably destroy any SB-E biggrin.gif

I think I am gonna do this on GPU as well, just buy a $150 GPU, upgrade it more ofteoun than buying a $700 GPU.biggrin.gif

That's fantastic but I bought everything second hand for 50% off retail price so...

Lol
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I just see little point in upgrading to this from X79 and my 4930K to be honest. Its hardly as if I'm ever truly CPU or platform limited as it is and as nice as it may be to have an 8-core, other than for bragging rights, I don't really see any true performance advantages over the 6-core I have now except in a very select few applications (such as render times in Premiere etc). The only real reason for me to go with this platform would be for benching and I don't know if I really want to keep sending so much of my hard-earned money down the upgrade rat hole just for benching, especially when the machine I have built now is still so competent in that arena...
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That's what a lot of people want, including me. An 8 core 5960k ~$600 is a fantastic way to jump over Intel's refreshes for a while. But it's a shame they didn't include Sata Express, in a year or 2 at most everything is going to have it. Why should I have to buy an add in controller and have 10 useless SATA III slots on my expensive long term investment? Isn't the long term use one of the main points? There are other designated platforms for Intel to pull planned obsolescence on.

EDIT: Took too long typing and now it looks like I'm hating on Clocknut. It's a marvelous strategy if a $150 GPU meets your standards for the whole time, but it's likely there will be a couple months where you want to upgrade, and you're stuck because you know something good is right around the corner. Then again, if you're willing to pay the price of not paying the price there's nothing wrong with this.
u gonna thank console for that. most games are not really uber high requirements these days, $150 GPU + with a mid-end platform like i5 is more than enough to most games on a single monitor.

X99 platform are only useful for those who still think 4960x are insufficient for their usage.
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Any word whether they'll have improved the TIM situation to avoid the issues that prompted delidding?

On all of the SB-E and IvB-E chips they used a soldered TIM, I think it would be suicidal to go away from that with the potential for even greater temps that an overclocked octocore CPU could produce, so that's probably an unwarranted concern... especially looking at how Haswell is already known for running much hotter than IvB and SB.
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Well I am super confused right now, I generally only upgrade every 4-5 years and am looking for something that can run high-end games for a long time. (I knw GPU is more imp.!)

So am running Q9550 so its really pretty old and was thinking i7-4790, but I wonder if in the next few years, sum big title games will start utilizing more than 4 cores... So what shall be my call?

Buy Haswell Refresh OR wait which is hard and buy a new platform and pay super price premium and on top of that it might have bugs. Also, I read sumwhere new RAM always have bugs, in this case it wud be DDR4... is it true ?

Furthermore, 6 core Haswell-E what will be the max. frequency? Maybe their frequency will be quite less and in comparison to i7-4790, it would be overall slow freq. wise, What u all say ?

PS: My budget is around 1600$ (Upgrading only CPU/MB, Ram, PSU, SSD ) and I don't overclock.
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You're right. For gaming, none of these new processors are necessary. Not until games start utilizing multiple cores/threads.

But consider the potential for folding, rendering, etc? If you can make good use of those extra threads it'd be worth it, short of the likelihood that DDR4 is probably going to be outrageously expensive at launch... especially with the prices that DDR3 sets are at right now.
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Well I am super confused right now, I generally only upgrade every 4-5 years and am looking for something that can run high-end games for a long time. (I knw GPU is more imp.!)

So am running Q9550 so its really pretty old and was thinking i7-4790, but I wonder if in the next few years, sum big title games will start utilizing more than 4 cores... So what shall be my call?

Buy Haswell Refresh OR wait which is hard and buy a new platform and pay super price premium and on top of that it might have bugs. Also, I read sumwhere new RAM always have bugs, in this case it wud be DDR4... is it true ?

PS: My budget is 1600$ max. (Upgrading everything except monitor & peripherals) and I don't overclock.

Honestly, if your total upgrade budget is $1600 max (I'm assuming you mean CPU/MB, ram, GPU, PSU, and maybe a SSD as well) my advice would be just go with a regular Haswell as the refresh isn't likely to be too big an improvement, at least not enough to really justify a need for it.

You're not going to be able to do much with an upgrade to Haswell-E at $1,600 given the likely high launch prices of DDR4... that low a budget will almost force you to gimp the build with a lower powered GPU than what a X99 build deserves to have, lol. For $1.600 top end, something along the lines of this would give you a helluva lot of bang for the buck with an upgrade and give you the flexibility to add a second GPU down the road if you wanted to...

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/37NvS

I know that list only runs about $1,450, but with a couple tweaks here and there it allows for the difference of moving up to a GTX 880 which will probably put you around $1,600.
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