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op try ubuntu.
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Originally Posted by Slomo4shO View Post

Eh?

The automated system does provide you a set of numbers to input to activate the key... how is it not legit?

It gives everyone those numbers, no matter if the OEM keys have been used before on another motherboard or not. It will work just fine, but not fully legal.

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-windows_install/can-i-reuse-my-windows-7-oem-license-on-a/969cae12-5791-4054-9f9a-9972c6ddc89a
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The deciding factor is if the original copy is full retail or OEM. I've been penalised by Mods for this before, and this is what I was sent:

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Originally Posted by BFRD View Post

I am tired of reading so many posts suggesting that you may install an OEM copy of a Windows OS on multiple computers and still retain a proper license. Just because you call up and ask for a license key and you are given one does NOT make it OK. Not getting caught is not the same thing as being allowed. The operators that are manning those phone lines do not have the training (or inclination) to determine if you are installing on a new machine or not. The license is clear; OEM = one machine only.


OEM licenses are cheaper for a reason, and it has very little to do with not having a box. It is cheaper because eventually you will need a new machine and will then have to buy another copy of the OS. So next time someone suggests that installing an OEM OS on a new (read: not the original) computer is OK; will get a Piracy Infraction.


Notes:
Minor hardware changes are permitted
A motherboard change is never minor
Hardware failure may not allow you to re-activate a license
This thread is about licensing not morality
MS will often allow you to re-activate even though they shouldn't, they have stated this will not protect you from prosecution
If you are upset about the licensing issues of OEM software complain to your system builder

Helpful links


Quote:


Here is a nice article that restates some of these facts.
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070130-8730.html



Quote:

http://www.overclock.net/t/156182/oem-clarification/0_20

Originally Posted by rabidgnome229

This page explains what you can/can't do


The license states that it is good for 1 PC only. Microsoft has defined 'PC' as a mobo for the license (used to be an HDD IIRC) so your license lives and dies with the mobo
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It is not a problem with 'forking out $100 for a new OS', it is forking out $100 each time I upgrade hardware. That practically doubles the cost of a new mobo. If you think that is somehow 'fair', I must be from a different planet. I'm from Earth. The little blue planet. Its not about the money, its about giving money over and over to multi-billionaires just because wehave no choice.

In any case, I have my answer.

As far as sticking with xp until the end of time, getting a new OS means reinstalling 100+ programs for me. I dont want to do that, much less multiple times. Takes days. When I get new hardware, I want to blow my latest acronis image onto the wiped drive in the new system, and reinstall the few drivers I may need to update to make it all go again. I bet there is a way to do that with Win7.64.
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Originally Posted by Magical Eskimo View Post

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The deciding factor is if the original copy is full retail or OEM. I've been penalised by Mods for this before, and this is what I was sent:

Quote:
Originally Posted by BFRD View Post

I am tired of reading so many posts suggesting that you may install an OEM copy of a Windows OS on multiple computers and still retain a proper license. Just because you call up and ask for a license key and you are given one does NOT make it OK. Not getting caught is not the same thing as being allowed. The operators that are manning those phone lines do not have the training (or inclination) to determine if you are installing on a new machine or not. The license is clear; OEM = one machine only.


OEM licenses are cheaper for a reason, and it has very little to do with not having a box. It is cheaper because eventually you will need a new machine and will then have to buy another copy of the OS. So next time someone suggests that installing an OEM OS on a new (read: not the original) computer is OK; will get a Piracy Infraction.


Notes:
Minor hardware changes are permitted
A motherboard change is never minor
Hardware failure may not allow you to re-activate a license
This thread is about licensing not morality
MS will often allow you to re-activate even though they shouldn't, they have stated this will not protect you from prosecution
If you are upset about the licensing issues of OEM software complain to your system builder

Helpful links


Quote:


Here is a nice article that restates some of these facts.
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070130-8730.html



Quote:

http://www.overclock.net/t/156182/oem-clarification/0_20

Originally Posted by rabidgnome229

This page explains what you can/can't do


The license states that it is good for 1 PC only. Microsoft has defined 'PC' as a mobo for the license (used to be an HDD IIRC) so your license lives and dies with the mobo

This would be correct, anyone saying "just call them up and they will do it" is right, but its not going to be any different then just plain downloading a pirated edition pre-activated.
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It is not a problem with 'forking out $100 for a new OS', it is forking out $100 each time I upgrade hardware. That practically doubles the cost of a new mobo. If you think that is somehow 'fair', I must be from a different planet. I'm from Earth. The little blue planet. Its not about the money, its about giving money over and over to multi-billionaires just because wehave no choice.

In any case, I have my answer.

As far as sticking with xp until the end of time, getting a new OS means reinstalling 100+ programs for me. I dont want to do that, much less multiple times. Takes days. When I get new hardware, I want to blow my latest acronis image onto the wiped drive in the new system, and reinstall the few drivers I may need to update to make it all go again. I bet there is a way to do that with Win7.64.

Upgrading anything except your mobo doesn't warrant another copy of windows if that's what you're getting at
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Thanks Dizzzz. That is reassuring.
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This is for windows Vista but same general idea applies to all versions of windows
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When you make a significant hardware change to your computer, such as upgrading the hard disk and memory at the same time, you might be required to activate Windows again.

To activate Windows on this computer, do the following:

Open Windows Activation by clicking the Start button Picture of the Start button, right-clicking Computer, clicking Properties, and then clicking Activate Windows now.‌ Administrator permission required If you are prompted for an administrator password or confirmation, type the password or provide confirmation.

If automatic activation fails, follow the screens that walk you through activating Windows by phone. You will have three days to activate your copy of Windows after changing your hardware.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-vista/troubleshoot-activation-problems
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I have used the same copy of W7 on at least 10 different builds over the last two years so I'm not sure where you got that information that you can only install it on one computer.

If it was an OEM copy then essentially you are committing piracy.
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It gives everyone those numbers, no matter if the OEM keys have been used before on another motherboard or not. It will work just fine, but not fully legal.

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-windows_install/can-i-reuse-my-windows-7-oem-license-on-a/969cae12-5791-4054-9f9a-9972c6ddc89a


Where does he say it is an OEM copy?
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