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So is this even possible, or is there something wrong with my ram/nb? Basically I upgraded to my 8350, and noticed it was still bottlenecking my SLI 560s to roughly 60% on each card when playing FF14.

Upon tryin a SINGLE 560 I noticed there was no difference. In player chwracter heavy areas, stressing the cpu more heavily, my SINGLE 560 was only getting 60% usage still.
    
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what is your res man

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VSync? Framerate? CPU Speed?
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Ever think maybe the game just isn't optimized to use your gpu correctly
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8350 will certainly bottleneck a 560 Ti in a lot of games.
In fact, an i7 will also be a bottleneck in some situations as well. The i7 will reach that point a bit later, but a lot of games are restricted to one core.

With my i7 and a 550 Ti at stock speeds, sometimes I see my GPU Usage drop down to around 30% in Raids in WoW, and that is a CPU bottleneck. I still maintain decent framerates but it's clearly limited mainly by the CPU.

Judging by benchmarks, for every 10 FPS the i7 gives me, you're likely to see about 7-8 in the same situation.
The lowest FPS I usually tend to see is around 40, so even still if that estimate is right, it'd be 28-32 minumum.
If you want to game at super high resolutions, then your 560 Ti would instead bottleneck the CPU.

No matter what the hell you're doing, and what hardware you have, you will always be bottlenecked by something. Whether or not it is serious, or a problem, depends on what you personally consider serious and a problem.

There is simply no way to entirely rid a computer of bottlenecks unless you design the hardware according to task, the moment you make the hardware do something else, you're likely to encounter a bottleneck somewhere.
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that's very weird your getting bottlenecking on those cards. when i had my 8350 with 2 amd 7950's i never encounter any bottlenecking in any game. re-install drivers? What ram you using? Speed? I've read many threads about bottlenecking with the 8350 due to the ram.
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Well the guy above basically read my mind. I drop to roughly 28-30fps in super saturated areas where my intel buddy hits about 42fps.

Im running my 8350 @ 4.6ghz and running my ram @ 1567mhz (fsb overclocked). Whats interesting is I can OC my 560s, and the usage % will stay EXACTLY THE SAME while increasing my fps; if it was a true, heavy, cpu bottleneck I woulndt expect to see this.

I GUESS MY MAIN QUESTION IS THIS: is it worth upgrading my graphics at all at this point? These 560s are pretty old now, buf if my 8350 cant even push them will it be pointless to buy a more powerful SINGLE gpu???
    
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VSync? Framerate? CPU Speed?

Vsync ... hell no
Framerate is solid 90+ most of the time, but demanding areas cause mind numbing fps dips as low as 28-32fps
    
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Well the guy above basically read my mind. I drop to roughly 28-30fps in super saturated areas where my intel buddy hits about 42fps.

Im running my 8350 @ 4.6ghz and running my ram @ 1567mhz (fsb overclocked). Whats interesting is I can OC my 560s, and the usage % will stay EXACTLY THE SAME while increasing my fps; if it was a true, heavy, cpu bottleneck I woulndt expect to see this.

I GUESS MY MAIN QUESTION IS THIS: is it worth upgrading my graphics at all at this point? These 560s are pretty old now, buf if my 8350 cant even push them will it be pointless to buy a more powerful SINGLE gpu???

Depending on what you plan to do, upgrading your GPU could be worth every penny, or not.
Lots of games depend heavily on the CPU for lots of things, while others are fairly simple.

In a game like Starcraft, upgrading your GPU would be almost worthless.

In a game like Alice: Madness Returns, upgrading your GPU could make a huge difference. The game uses NVIDIA's proprietary PhysX as their physics engine, so a lot of the effects are offloaded from the CPU onto the GPU. (Or if you set the CPU as the PhysX Processor, it's back on the CPU, but it's optional)

There are plenty of other games that are light on the CPU but heavy on the GPU, but I can't think of any atm. Pretty much any game that uses PhysX will benefit greatly from a high end GPU and usually not be CPU bottlenecked.
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Well the guy above basically read my mind. I drop to roughly 28-30fps in super saturated areas where my intel buddy hits about 42fps.

Im running my 8350 @ 4.6ghz and running my ram @ 1567mhz (fsb overclocked). Whats interesting is I can OC my 560s, and the usage % will stay EXACTLY THE SAME while increasing my fps; if it was a true, heavy, cpu bottleneck I woulndt expect to see this.

I GUESS MY MAIN QUESTION IS THIS: is it worth upgrading my graphics at all at this point? These 560s are pretty old now, buf if my 8350 cant even push them will it be pointless to buy a more powerful SINGLE gpu???

Totally depends on what you play. If it's old MMOs like WoW then not really however if you play games like Battlefield 4, Crysis 3 and many other modern/upcoming games then the 8350 will, in most cases, have the grunt to feed a higher end GPU which will keep up with a i5.

Not sure what game you are referencing to in your posts however, as far as I am aware not many MMOs even make the best use of SLI/Crossfire so it's very possible you are just seeing the game not optimized well for multi cards.
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