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Deathadder VS Rival VS g400s

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Currently I have a Kinzu v2, and now that I have some money, I want to upgrade, but i can't decide between those mice. I want the rival the most but in it's thread recently I saw some people complaining of a firmware issue and I wasn't too sure about that. My only problem with the g400s is that to me it looks extremely ugly. The only real complaint i see about the deathadder is people complaining about it's build quality and it breaking. Would either of these feel like much of an upgrade to a kinzu V2? Are there any other mice that are like the deathadder/rival that i'm missing?
post #2 of 10
Deathadder 3.5G or Deathadder 2013 is better out of those.
Deathadder 3.5G is heavier, but it is more responsive than Deathadder 2013, which boasts in lighter weight and better build quality.
Your memory based flick shots will land with the 3.5G, but will not land with the Deathadder 2013.
Those are your opportunity costs, so choose which matters most to you.
post #3 of 10
Out of those, I'd go for the Rival. It has a nice sensor and fits really well in my hand.

The 3.5G Deathadder is also a great mouse, but it has a monster LOD without the tape trick.

The 2013 Deathadder is also a great mouse. It's a little more hollow feeling than the 3.5G, but can be lifted easier and doesn't require a tape trick in order to lower the LOD.

The G400s is a different animal all together. The shape is love it or hate it, and the tracking went a bit dodgy with the s model.
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Currently I have a Kinzu v2, and now that I have some money, I want to upgrade, but i can't decide between those mice. I want the rival the most but in it's thread recently I saw some people complaining of a firmware issue and I wasn't too sure about that. My only problem with the g400s is that to me it looks extremely ugly. The only real complaint i see about the deathadder is people complaining about it's build quality and it breaking. Would either of these feel like much of an upgrade to a kinzu V2? Are there any other mice that are like the deathadder/rival that i'm missing?

Take a look at the Mionix Naos 7000 and Avior 7000. Same sensor as the Rival (which has the best optical sensor out of the mice you mentioned) but some variations in shape. I use the Avior exclusively now and it's really amazing. A lot better build quality and software quality than the Rival. The Rival is definitely the best out of the mice you mentioned. Razer doesn't build reliable products, at least not anymore.
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Take a look at the Mionix Naos 7000 and Avior 7000. Same sensor as the Rival (which has the best optical sensor out of the mice you mentioned) but some variations in shape. I use the Avior exclusively now and it's really amazing. A lot better build quality and software quality than the Rival. The Rival is definitely the best out of the mice you mentioned. Razer doesn't build reliable products, at least not anymore.
My problem with the Naos/Avior is that they cost 80$, meanwhile everything else is 40-50$. I actually really like the look of the Naos but it's just so expensive, and i also saw someone complain that it's hard to pick up while gaming.( I game on a low sensitivity so that's something that I do)
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My problem with the Naos/Avior is that they cost 80$, meanwhile everything else is 40-50$. I actually really like the look of the Naos but it's just so expensive, and i also saw someone complain that it's hard to pick up while gaming.( I game on a low sensitivity so that's something that I do)

The Avior is very easy to lift. Yeah, it can be a bit expensive but it is well worth it though. I play on 70cm/360 with it and it's godly.
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post #7 of 10
I have been very pleased with my deathadder 2013, no issues for me in 8+ months.
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The Avior is very easy to lift. Yeah, it can be a bit expensive but it is well worth it though. I play on 70cm/360 with it and it's godly.
I'm not really a fan of ambidextrous mice but that's my only complaint about the Avior (Well, besides the price)
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I'm not really a fan of ambidextrous mice but that's my only complaint about the Avior (Well, besides the price)

Rival it is then, cheaper, same sensor, right handed, very easily liftable.
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post #10 of 10
The only cons so far with the Rival:
- Rubber cable - causes pre much friction on the pad if not placed properly
- rattling noise
> while on the other hand the DA 2013 mousewheel rattle is alot louder wink.gif

Else a top recommendation for any Deathadder user. I got used to the shape in an instant. The 3310 Sensor performance is the best i've experianced.
My Deathadder with 1800 lived for 3+ years (actually it still works.. the mouse4 button is broken but it might be me pressing the push to talk button to hard) the 2013 died after 1 year.

The Avior is not really my shape mostly due to the annoying side buttons.
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