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Got the rest of the parts needed to finish my switch panel. Just need to swing by Home Depot for some PVC/insulation for a res and I'm pretty much set.

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Dang puck, go big or go home I guess. What peltier modules are in the chiller, and what voltage to they run @? It'll be fun to see what kind of thermals you get with that rig
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Dang puck, go big or go home I guess. What peltier modules are in the chiller, and what voltage to they run @? It'll be fun to see what kind of thermals you get with that rig
http://www.customthermoelectric.com/tecs/pdf/19911-5M31-28CZ_spec_sht.pdf

That is the spec sheet for the TECs. Three of them total, one in each chiller and one in the block, all at 14v.
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http://www.customthermoelectric.com/tecs/pdf/19911-5M31-28CZ_spec_sht.pdf

That is the spec sheet for the TECs. Three of them total, one in each chiller and one in the block, all at 14v.

Oh dang, when I thought tri-TEC chiller I pictured some 50mm 275 units, but that thing doesn't screw around. You're gunna get some crazy low thermals with that, especially if you're overriding the dewpoint control. What coolant are you going to use to keep the coldblock from frosting over?
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Oh dang, when I thought tri-TEC chiller I pictured some 50mm 275 units, but that thing doesn't screw around. You're gunna get some crazy low thermals with that, especially if you're overriding the dewpoint control. What coolant are you going to use to keep the coldblock from frosting over?

Propylene Glycol mix - plenty low enough freezing point, but not as damaging to plastics as other antifreeze additives.
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Got the bottom of the res done today. Tomorrow morning I will finish the res and go back to the controller smile.gif.

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Got the bottom of the res done today. Tomorrow morning I will finish the res and go back to the controller smile.gif.


You should heat shrink it, or paint it to make it purdy, or wrap it in neoprene, then heat shrink it, then it will be super insulated and purdy. XD

Looks solid non the less.
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You should heat shrink it, or paint it to make it purdy, or wrap it in neoprene, then heat shrink it, then it will be super insulated and purdy. XD

Looks solid non the less.

It will be covered in black Armaflex smile.gif

Almost done with res, just needs return port drilled/tapped then insulation.

Edited by Puck - 3/15/14 at 7:56am
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Propylene Glycol mix - plenty low enough freezing point, but not as damaging to plastics as other antifreeze additives.
Have you considered running a mix of grain alcohol and distilled water? A 50/50 mix of ethenol and distilled has an approx freezing point of -87C and maintains a good flow rate. Propylene glycol tends to be a bit thick and doesn't flow as nice. wink.gif
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Have you considered running a mix of grain alcohol and distilled water? A 50/50 mix of ethenol and distilled has an approx freezing point of -87C and maintains a good flow rate. Propylene glycol tends to be a bit thick and doesn't flow as nice. wink.gif

I was thinking propylene glycol because it will not react with loop components like Delrin and PVC. There is no plexi or acrylic on the cold side loop, but my block top is delrin and res is PVC. Would the grain alcohol react with either of those materials in any way? I would assume the PVC is safe, but the Delrin block top I'm not so sure. Keep in mind this is not just for benching - this rig runs 24/7. Not too worried about the pump, 655's are work horses and only have that ceramic bearing and main housing o-ring to worry about.

Res is finished! Two layers of armaflex, overlapping each seam by 50% so no gaps. Going to let it cure for a few hours then run a test...will fill it with ice water and plug the barbs, then monitor the temp after an hour to see how well it holds temp. Won't be perfect since I'm just gonna loop a piece of hose to the barbs that wont be insulated, but it will give me a rough idea to make sure the chiller wont be working as hard to keep the res cold at idle.
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