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I was thinking propylene glycol because it will not react with loop components like Delrin and PVC. There is no plexi or acrylic on the cold side loop, but my block top is delrin and res is PVC. Would the grain alcohol react with either of those materials in any way? I would assume the PVC is safe, but the Delrin block top I'm not so sure. Keep in mind this is not just for benching - this rig runs 24/7. Not too worried about the pump, 655's are work horses and only have that ceramic bearing and main housing o-ring to worry about.

The last block I ran with an ethanol mix was a D-Tek FuZion. It had a delrin top. I took it apart before I sold it and did not notice any corrosion. I was running 2x DDC 3.25 pumps with an EK high flow top, also made of delrin. Neither the top nor the pumps (inc the O-ring) showed any sign of a bad reaction with the ethanol.
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The last block I ran with an ethanol mix was a D-Tek FuZion. It had a delrin top. I took it apart before I sold it and did not notice any corrosion. I was running 2x DDC 3.25 pumps with an EK high flow top, also made of delrin. Neither the top nor the pumps (inc the O-ring) showed any sign of a bad reaction with the ethanol.

Awesome, thanks - I'll give it a try. Where do you source yours? Silly question, but would Everclear+distilled water work? It is 95% Ethanol.
Edited by Puck - 3/15/14 at 1:07pm
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Awesome, thanks - I'll give it a try. Where do you source yours? Silly question, but would Everclear+distilled water work? It is 95% Ethanol.

Yep, that'd work. It was what I used. Easier to source (your local liquor store) and cheaper.
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Yep, that'd work. It was what I used. Easier to source (your local liquor store) and cheaper.

Awesome, thanks!
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Looks like I'm going to be living on the edge laughingsmiley.gif.

The three TECs at full draw 12v will be pulling ~430w and 36A off the 12v rail. The TEC PSU I am using is an ooooolllldddddd OCZ 520ADJ adjustable unit (why isn't that an option anymore?!?). I have taken apart and hard modded the PSU and cut out all the extra wiring, leaving only the GRN signal pin tied into my ATX connector, and the PCIE/Molex connectors. I run the 12v rail at 14.1v, and all it powers are my pumps, TECs, and fans...the PSU is only rated for ~400w and 36a off the 12v rail though. Looks like I won't be able to run all three at 100% until I get a new secondary PSU.

I'd love to keep them at 14v though...gonna have to do some thinking to see how I wanna do this. I'd hate to have to run them at 12v instead of 14, but I think I have a spare TX650 Corsair PSU lying around somewhere that is over 600w/50A 12v that would be plenty...

**edit** Shouldn't be too big of an issue, I was looking at the 12v ratings thinking I would be 3a over, but at 14v I should be using only ~29a not 36a like they do at 12v...which should be fine since the PSU is good for 33a.
Edited by Puck - 3/15/14 at 4:02pm
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I was thinking propylene glycol because it will not react with loop components like Delrin and PVC. There is no plexi or acrylic on the cold side loop, but my block top is delrin and res is PVC. Would the grain alcohol react with either of those materials in any way? I would assume the PVC is safe, but the Delrin block top I'm not so sure. Keep in mind this is not just for benching - this rig runs 24/7. Not too worried about the pump, 655's are work horses and only have that ceramic bearing and main housing o-ring to worry about.

Res is finished! Two layers of armaflex, overlapping each seam by 50% so no gaps. Going to let it cure for a few hours then run a test...will fill it with ice water and plug the barbs, then monitor the temp after an hour to see how well it holds temp. Won't be perfect since I'm just gonna loop a piece of hose to the barbs that wont be insulated, but it will give me a rough idea to make sure the chiller wont be working as hard to keep the res cold at idle.

Now that's a good looking reservoir!

Anyways, you could always go ethylene glycol instead of PG. Mayhems XT-1 would 50/50 would give you a freezing temp of -50c and @ -40degrees PG is 9x more viscous than EG, so that would let you get around the viscosity without having to worry about alcohols eating through Orings and all that jazz.
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Now that's a good looking reservoir!

Anyways, you could always go ethylene glycol instead of PG. Mayhems XT-1 would 50/50 would give you a freezing temp of -50c and @ -40degrees PG is 9x more viscous than EG, so that would let you get around the viscosity without having to worry about alcohols eating through Orings and all that jazz.
I am going to try the ethanol+distilled mix first.

Philly_boy said he ran it with a D-Tek block, and it did not effect the delrin or o-rings. It is also easy to source and not too expensive.
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I am going to try the ethanol+distilled mix first.

Philly_boy said he ran it with a D-Tek block, and it did not effect the delrin or o-rings. It is also easy to source and not too expensive.
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I am going to try the ethanol+distilled mix first.

Philly_boy said he ran it with a D-Tek block, and it did not effect the delrin or o-rings. It is also easy to source and not too expensive.

Fair enough, plus when it's time to drain you could get pour yourself a computer coolant martini. XD
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Fair enough, plus when it's time to drain you could get pour yourself a computer coolant martini. XD

Hahaha Everclear is gross, I'll stick to rum lol.
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Chillers and third pump are here, just waiting on a few little bits to get here that should arrive tomorrow.

Did notice a small problem...I'm out of PCIE connectors laughingsmiley.gif. I have 2 7970s which each take a 6pin and 8pin(That's 4), then the block takes a 6pin as well...thats 5. I need two more 6-pins for the two chillers though, and only have one free (I think)...I may have to get those 2x Molex->6pin adapters, hopefully they are carried in stock at the local Tigerdirect store.



They will be mounted up high above my horizontal mobo on the far side of the case wall using that plastic outdoor industrial velcro - should look pretty trick with the "a" logo lit up. This whole cold side loop will be on the top floor, the hot side loop on the bottom with the GPU loop.
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