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Only annoying thing about Win 8.1 is the following:

"There are some limitations when it comes to MIDI in Windows 8. The ability to choose a different hardware or software MIDI synthesizer other than the default Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth has been removed from the user interface for audio configuration in Windows 8. In short Windows 8 doesn't have the Midi mapper like XP did."

I tried to update the firmware on my keytar. It couldn't find the MIDI controller at all. So it had to be done on my Win 7 laptop.. But the keytar works fine in the programs I use though.
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All I use is Win + S and Win + X smile.gif

Don't need a start menu at all. Waste of space.

I hope they make an option to disable Metro completely in 8.1 Update 1.

The stuff i miss the most is Classic Theme / Aero Theme, but I guess there is a way to get it. I havent had time to read up on it.
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Originally Posted by Kyleinator View Post

Fixed.

Seriously, just spend some time with Windows 8 and quit crying. It's a great OS you'll just have to relearn some things....

It's really not. Win8 is easily the worst designed OS Microsoft have ever released. And the fact that Win7 is still outselling Win8 speaks volumes really.
Edited by Plan9 - 3/26/14 at 3:52am
post #124 of 175
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Originally Posted by The Hundred Gunner View Post

Why do you think they call it windows? Because you get to waste time playing around with windows and dragging them all over the place to get to where you want to go biggrin.gif

Seriously, it's 2014 and the "other two" OSs have much more advanced window/desktop management. It's just downright shameful.

Indeed. And not just Linux and OSX, but all the different BSDs (Open, Free, etc), OpenIndiana, Haiku, RISC OS and even now defunct OSs such as BeOS, SkyOS, OS/2....

It's just laughable really.
post #125 of 175
1) Find the option to boot to the desktop
2) Don't use Metro apps. Microsoft messed up big time with that. Yes, pressing Esc would be a logical way to close a metro app ... but apparently it isn't .
3) Consider the tile menu just an oversized start menu. DO NOT use it as a working environment. Remove those full-screen calculator, IE, etc. apps. You're on a desktop, not a tablet.
4) Right click the Start-button and praise the programmer at Microsoft who actually has a brain and implemented that feature.
5) Just disable/ remove anything that makes it windows 8 (the charm bar, the app switching etc.)

There you go, now you can start enjoying Windows 8. The trick is to use it as if it was Windows 7 with a start menu mod .

I've been using W8.1 for a while now on my desktop and I can't complain. The problem at first was that I tried to use it as Windows 8 and it just doesn't work on a PC (great on a tablet though) thumb.gif

EDIT:
I wouldn't consider Windows 8 a great OS by any stretch of the imagination. Unless you think "disabling/removing all the new stuff, endure the rest" defines a "great OS". Linux distros and OSX have both surpassed Windows. The day people stop using Office and developers start taking Linux seriously, I'm throwing a huge party where we make a bonfire to burn all our Windows-related stuff biggrin.gif
Edited by Bloitz - 3/26/14 at 4:16am
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post #126 of 175
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1) Find the option to boot to the desktop
2) Don't use Metro apps. Microsoft messed up big time with that. Yes, pressing Esc would be a logical way to close a metro app ... but apparently it isn't .
3) Consider the tile menu just an oversized start menu. DO NOT use it as a working environment. Remove those full-screen calculator, IE, etc. apps. You're on a desktop, not a tablet.
4) Right click the Start-button and praise the programmer at Microsoft who actually has a brain and implemented that feature.
5) Just disable/ remove anything that makes it windows 8 (the charm bar, the app switching etc.)

There you go, now you can start enjoying Windows 8. The trick is to use it as if it was Windows 7 with a start menu mod .

I've been using W8.1 for a while now on my desktop and I can't complain. The problem at first was that I tried to use it as Windows 8 and it just doesn't work on a PC (great on a tablet though) thumb.gif

To be honest, I just formatted and installed a better OS tongue.gif
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Originally Posted by KingAlkaiser View Post

1) can you get free downgrade from microsoft?

They can do you free downgradings, its completely free, apart from the one off payment of $189.99 for the first month and then $19.99 a month for 6 months, which is followed by monthly payments of $9.99 for the next 367 months.
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1) can you get free downgrade from microsoft?

They can do you free downgradings, its completely free, apart from the one off payment of $189.99 for the first month and then $19.99 a month for 6 months, which is followed by monthly payments of $9.99 for the next 367 months.

    You've got to be kidding!  That's $3,976.26 over 31 years for a "free" downgrade, man! lachen.gif

    If you have Windows 8x Professional, yes, you are eligible to a free Windows 7 downgrade.  Those with Windows 8 Home will have to buy a separate Windows 7 license.
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post #129 of 175
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Oh and I do actually have a W8 phone and I like it. Its simple to use and not frustrating in that environment because I don't have to search for a start screen or anything giving more credance to my assertion that W8 metro is best suited for casuals in phones and tablets. On the other hand I gave it to my girlfriend to play with and she expressed a desire to throw it in a lake because she could figure stuff out in it.
Seriously? How can you not be able to figure out WP8? It's the easiest mobile OS I've ever used. It's one of the reasons I use it.
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It's really not. Win8 is easily the worst designed OS Microsoft have ever released. And the fact that Win7 is still outselling Win8 speaks volumes really.
I think if you go back and check, you'd find that the last version of Windows that immediately outsold its predecessor upon release was Windows 95. The later versions all took time to outsell the old version, and in a few cases (Windows Me and Vista), they never did. Even Windows XP was very unpopular when it first came out, and it took a while for people to realize it was a quantum leap in stability over Windows 98, and well worth the upgrade. I'd actually upgraded to Windows 2000 long before XP ever came out, and didn't switch to XP until 2004.

Just because a new version of Windows doesn't outsell the older one doesn't mean it's terrible. Even Vista wasn't terrible; Vista just had no business running on a lot of the hardware it initially shipped on, and Intel should have waited for the Core 2 Duo. And Windows 8 isn't terrible, either. Frustrating sometimes, but not terrible, and easy to "fix" if you feel the need.
     
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I think if you go back and check, you'd find that the last version of Windows that immediately outsold its predecessor upon release was Windows 95. The later versions all took time to outsell the old version, and in a few cases (Windows Me and Vista), they never did. Even Windows XP was very unpopular when it first came out, and it took a while for people to realize it was a quantum leap in stability over Windows 98, and well worth the upgrade. I'd actually upgraded to Windows 2000 long before XP ever came out, and didn't switch to XP until 2004.
Dude, Win7 was the fastest selling OS of all time, Vista was a flop and the original version of XP was just an uglier version of Windows 2000 (hence why people hated it initially); it took a couple of service packs before XP really came into it's own.

However XP still outsold Windows 2000 (as most desktop users weren't running Win 2000 anyway and ME was just awful too), and Win7 still outsold Vista (as I linked to above).
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Just because a new version of Windows doesn't outsell the older one doesn't mean it's terrible.
True, but in this there isn't the "my computer isn't powerful enough" type arguments that existed before. In this case people are buying Win7 because they hate Win8. So in this case it most definitely does mean Win8 is terrible.
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Even Vista wasn't terrible
Yes it was.
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Vista just had no business running on a lot of the hardware it initially shipped on
True; but it was also terrible on hardware that it was capable being run on.
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And Windows 8 isn't terrible, either. Frustrating sometimes, but not terrible, and easy to "fix" if you feel the need.
OS's shouldn't be frustrating and nor should they need to be fixed by the users just to make them usable. If they do, then they're crap. Period.

And for the record, the breaking every UI guideline in the book - creating interactive widgets that are indistinguishable from non-interactive widgets and hiding commonly used functions behind non-guessable interfaces does make for a terrible OS. But what would I know; I've only been writing Windows applications since the 90s tongue.gif After two decades of writing desktop applications; you start to get an idea of what makes for a good user interface and what makes for a terrible one. Win8 is most definitely in latter category (frankly, I think "terrible" is being too kind)

Here's a question for you, have you actually ever used another OS or are you happy to be spoonfed whatever dog food Microsoft serve you? Because you compare the out-of-the-box Windows 8 experience to OS X, Ubuntu, Mint, hell even Haiku, RISC OS and other niche platforms, and you'll see how just how woeful Win8 is (I still think BeOS is one of the greatest OS's ever made and that's been dead for 15 years)
Edited by Plan9 - 3/27/14 at 1:22pm
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