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Im building a new computer and my case has two 60mm fans and one 92mm fan all with 3-pins. However my Asus H87M-PLUS motherboard only has two 4-pin fan connectors! Ugh rolleyes.gif

Ive searched on the internet and have found various cables, splitters, fan controllers, adapters! But Im kinda confused as to which would be the best solution? Its a HTPC so would like everything to be as quiet as possible.

Does anyone have any recommendations on what I should buy? Ideally Id like to use PWM fans and a splitter to keep the fans at a minimum when not needed, but cant seem to buy any 60mm PWM fans in the UK. Unfortunately I cant use a front panel fan controller as I have no space. So at the moment the best solution for me seems to be 'Xigmatek CSF-CBK33-U01 Mono-Cool Fan Controller' unless anyone has any other thoughts:




Thanks for any advice! wink.gif
post #2 of 15
You could use a 4-pin "Y" cable... on two of them.

like this: http://www.amazon.com/Silverstone-Tek-Sleeved-Splitter-CPF01/dp/B00B46XKKQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1394580569&sr=8-1&keywords=silverstone+y+cable

Your board should handle two fans without a problem (although I would check it if I were you.

that is probably the simplest thing to do. A fan controller can be good too, if you want manual control
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Do not buy any fan less than 120mm. The smaller fans push less air with more noise.

 

For what you would spend on new fans, you can buy a decent case with modern fans. See my sig.

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post #5 of 15
OP.. you don't have to have 4 pin fans... 3 pin fans will work fine on the 4 pin connectors... you just wont have the full PWM control capability, but your bios would still be able to control the fans.

See pic:
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post #6 of 15
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Many thanks for the replies. I didnt realise you could plug 3pin fan into 4pin connector! That makes things a little easier. I know small fans arent ideal but its a HTPC so size is restricted. Its a 'Origen S14V' case with two 60mm exhaust and one 92mm intake fans:




So it seems I have three options basically:

1. Buy a Y Cable Splitter (3-pin female to 2x 3-pin-male) and attach the two 60mm fans to it. Then connect all the fans to the two motherboard fan connectors using 3-pin. Manually adjust fan speed in BIOS if needed.



2. Buy three new 4-pin PWM fans (expensive!) and a Y Cable Splitter (4-pin female to 2x 4-pin male) for the two 60mm fans. Then connect everything to the motherboard using 4-pin for full automatic PWM fan control.



3. Or finally, buy a Xigmatek CSF-CBK33-U01 Mono-Cool Fan Controller and attach the three case fans to it avoiding the motherboard completely. Then manually adjust the speed with the knob if needed:




Any final thoughts? Obviously the first option is cheapest and easiest. Does it matter about attaching different fan types (e.g. 60mm and 92mm) to a fan controller I wonder?

Thanks!
post #7 of 15
ehume and cgipson1 are correct. thumb.gif

Splitter will work fine. Just make sure the fan on each header use less than 1 amp (12 watt) total power. That is the limit for most motherboard fan headers.
Nice case. thumb.gif
I assume you know it is designed to cool low power / heat components. You only have 1x 92mm flowing air into case. We want at least as much airflow through case as the CPU and GPU cooling fans use. If you have 40cfm airflow from 92mm fan 60cfm combined airflow through CPU and GPU combined they will have to re-circulate their heated exhaust. wink.gif
post #8 of 15
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Thanks doyll.

Dont want to get too far off the main topic, but I shall be using a EVGA GeForce GTX 760 Superclocked w/ ACX Cooler and an Intel Core i5 4570 with a Zalman CNPS8900 Ultra Quiet Low Profile CPU Cooler. Along with a 650W Corsair RM Series CP-9020054-U power supply (the fan points into the case).

Realise theres not much airflow but wont be gaming excessively so hopefully will be ok? Im only using an SSD so wont be any heat from hard drives and is a solid aluminium case which might help dissipate some heat!
post #9 of 15
When system is idling you will be okay.

But when it starts working it will not stay cool.

GTX 760 is 150-160w with 2x 92mm fans moving air inside of case..

i7 4570 is 84w with CNPS8900 110mm fan moving air inside of case.

Case has 1x 92mm intake and 2x 60mm exhaust fans moving air through case..

That's at least twice as much, maybe more than 3 times as much air recirculating / moving around inside of case compared to air circulating / flowing through the case.

I assume you already have it so give it a try... I don't think you have enough case airflow but I might be wrong. Please let me know how it works out.thumb.gif
post #10 of 15
I agree with Doyle... a GTX760 in that case probably won't work. You will need more airflow... I guarantee it! lol! The 760 will cook! Be ok for just media stuff probably, but not gaming. My HTPC I just used the built in Intel video.... and my Silverstone case has 3x 120mm fans. It has run 4 years without a hiccup. There are a couple of HTPC cases out there that will take larger fans... you just have to find them. If you need a gaming system.. you need a better case, with more fans.

Those little fans will need to run FAST.. and they will be noisy...... and they still won't move enough air for a 760, or for the CPU under a heavy gaming load.
Edited by cgipson1 - 3/12/14 at 7:13am
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