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I was about to invest in another intel CPU/mobo but when i see stuff like this i wonder whats really going on. My biggest dilemma is i am creeping up on the max of my PSU. I wish i had some solid CPU intel/AMD overclocked wattage consumption numbers to go by. I really wanted to get an AMD cpu with my AMD gpu's and threads like this make me wonder what the right move is.

Without getting into anything benchmark related... A well overclocked 8300 chip is insanely power hungry. As in SB-e Hex levels. If you are close to the wall (within 50-75w) with a normal quad core intel chip, you would likely need a new PSU to go AMD and get to any fun (4.8+) overclock levels.

I have a hard time seeing your 1600 and 1200w units being a problem though. tongue.gif
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More power to you Mr Pro Gamer. However on OCN, it's mostly people who push their hardware hard for the extra pretty. You are on totally the wrong forum for your mind set.

And no, a 4930k is not required for 120fps+. Heck, you don't even need 2 290Xs for that, it's pathetically easy to do playing by "gamer rules". But continue to think that all you want.
So when do we tell him we've both broken past 200FPS in BF4 at 1080 max settings with max AA?

Well, i wasn't going to actually, might scramble their brain trying to comprehend CrapMD actually getting those kinds of numbers rolleyes.gif
 
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will follow this and thanks thumb.gif- there is always a place in my heart for Amd xxx biggrin.gif
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Without getting into anything benchmark related... A well overclocked 8300 chip is insanely power hungry. As in SB-e Hex levels. If you are close to the wall (within 50-75w) with a normal quad core intel chip, you would likely need a new PSU to go AMD and get to any fun (4.8+) overclock levels.

I have a hard time seeing your 1600 and 1200w units being a problem though. tongue.gif

i am at 4.8oc on my i7 quad now, 1.47v - i made some tweaks and its really doing well now. I was just considering more cores/higher clock speed for games like Metro LL, Cysis 3etc... I am trying to do game benchmarks for 4k eyefinity and those are some games im struggling with. Maybe i should hold out a while longer, but i was trying to decide between an AMD 9590 or hexa intel...

when i overclock my gpus i get easily 1500watts at wall so with efficiency i still have room i think. thumb.gif

I wish i had a way to test both hardwares instead of dishing out 500$-1k$
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Hmmm... I'm on a 7850K + 290X. I was going to sell my 8350 and 2 280X's for new chip and board. Then I got bummed when I toasted my 8350 during the BOINC Pent and felt I won't be able to upgrade anymore.

But after seeing this... I may just sell the 280X's and get another 8350.
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Of course it does bottleneck even two 7970s playing at 1080p bf3/bf4. If you are a true gamer fps is much more needed than big and multiple eye candy screens. So no, many people would in fact want 120+ fps using one screen and that will need a i7 4930 and two r9 290x in bf4. Just adding resolution to remove the bottlenecks seem like a jokingly idea for a gamer, if the OP is a gamer that is. I understand this is your hobby, but defending a obsolete CPU like this is too much.
For FS can you bloody Introlls just stay the hell away from our threads! We don't care about your E-peen. We know you have inferiority complexes for the lack in other departments! But you don't need to broadcast it over the web. Do you have experience with FX? No? Ok then keep quiet and watch like a good child should or go to back to your room. If you are so depressed that your I7 XTREEM OVERKILL (that cost too much) is threatened by a lowly FX then sell it and buy 3 FX's for the same price! lachen.gif Damned 12 year olds.
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Why do you react in anger just because I share my thought? I mean if you have a build log in a public forum you got to accept peoples reactions. Specially when doing such extreme builds out of the ordinary, people will question. Also im not a fan boy neither do I have a high end i7, I just discussion trying to understand so I can help others. I mean all these threads do affect people and some times they affect people in making poor decisions so the person making a thread got to think about that also. The responsibility goes two ways. I mean I think the build as awesome dont get me wrong, I just question the choice of parts. But yeah im kinda young and new to computers.
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Why do you react in anger just because I share my thought? I mean if you have a build log in a public forum you got to accept peoples reactions. Specially when doing such extreme builds out of the ordinary, people will question. Also im not a fan boy neither do I have a high end i7, I just discussion trying to understand so I can help others. I mean all these threads do affect people and some times they affect people in making poor decisions so the person making a thread got to think about that also. The responsibility goes two ways. I mean I think the build as awesome dont get me wrong, I just question the choice of parts. But yeah im kinda young and new to computers.
The reason why people (like me) react in anger is because we hear and read all over, the Intel better than AMD talk. We hear it and read it day in day out. Even when proved otherwise people still go on about why Intel is better.

In the case of this thread you posted your concerns as to why you thought the part selection was poor. However even after getting told the reasons behind the part selection and purpose of the build, you continued to carry on about why Intel would be better, going on about bottlenecks etc. etc. It gets annoying. Red1776 is one of the most experienced FX users I know of. He is also a reviewer ( Red I stand to be corrected if this is wrong) so he sure as hell knows what he is doing. Numerous people have stated how the gap between AMD and Intel is smaller than it is made out to be. But 65% of PC enthusiasts (The Intel majority) state this as being BS. However here is Red who runs 4x 7970's and now 4x 290X's telling us the facts BUT STILL people dispute them. thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif And you wonder why people react in anger? headscratch.gif
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Why do you react in anger just because I share my thought? I mean if you have a build log in a public forum you got to accept peoples reactions. Specially when doing such extreme builds out of the ordinary, people will question. Also im not a fan boy neither do I have a high end i7, I just discussion trying to understand so I can help others. I mean all these threads do affect people and some times they affect people in making poor decisions so the person making a thread got to think about that also. The responsibility goes two ways. I mean I think the build as awesome dont get me wrong, I just question the choice of parts. But yeah im kinda young and new to computers.

There is a marked difference between expressing an opinion and threadcrapping.
Don't get sucked into the 'team' mentality,both companies produce a solid product,both have their merits and failings.
Do some research,understand that the playing field is far from level.

Above all,enjoy the effort people like Red go to,to prove that the mob is definitely not correct.
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, I just discussion trying to understand so I can help others. I mean all these threads do affect people and some times they affect people in making poor decisions so the person making a thread got to think about that also. The responsibility goes two ways.
Sorry for the double post. But I wanted to add. If you are trying to help people and the internet with advice on making the right decisions for their builds and stopping the spreading of misinformation then I suggest you let the thread run its course and watch carefully. That is the point of this thread. To prove that AMD is still viable and just how viable it is! You want to help someone make the right choice for a PC? So why go on about all this Intel vs AMD BS, and the guy goes and overspends on an I5-4570K or similar when something like a 6300 or an 8320 would have been a just as viable or if not more than viable choice? Do you see what I am getting at? It as you says goes both ways. An Example. It is like people stating that even though FX processor is cheaper. I5 is cheaper than an equivalent FX build in the end cause you don't need third party coolers to cool it. This is misinformation that I have seen spread around often on a daily basis. And newbies BELIEVE it. Then they go out and buy the Intel when in the end the AMD still might have been cheaper. You don't NEED third party coolers to cool an octo FX. I managed 4.25GHz on my stock cooler IBT stable just for LOL's. You don't neeD an H80 or an NH-D14. The DREADED Hyper 212 will take it 4.4 or a TT True Spirit 120 or 140 could take that up to 4.5. And those are not expensive coolers. This is an example of misinformation that must be stamped out. Although it isn't applicable to this thread. It is just one of the other many examples out there.
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Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung 850 PRO 1TB WD Blue 500GB WD Blue 1 TB Samsung Spinpoint HD502HI 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
XSPC D5 Bay Res 3x CoolerMaster Storm Force 200's 2x EK-FC Fury X fullcovers EK-FC Terminal Dual Parallel 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
2x EK-FC Fury X Backplates XSPC Raystorm CPU Block EKWB Coolstream CE280 EKWB Coolstream PE360 
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3x CoolerMaster Jetflo's 120mm 6 Corsair ML140's  Laing D5 Vario Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit 
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