Overclock.net › Forums › Case Mods & Cases › Builds & Case Mods › Build Logs › AMD High Performance Project- By Red1776
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

AMD High Performance Project- By Red1776 - Page 58

post #571 of 675
Quote:
Originally Posted by rickcooperjr View Post

it is from http://www.anandtech.com/show/7865/asrock-fm2a88x-extreme6-review under ASRock FM2A88X Extreme6+ Overview also this one I quoted http://www.anandtech.com/show/7865/asrock-fm2a88x-extreme6-review/11 under ASRock FM2A88X Extreme6+ Conclusion.

I miss in this article, any sort of VRM temp testing, we don't even know if they were hot to the touch or not. They might just have forgotten to turn off TDP based throttling/APM master mode or something. Throttling to stock speed, when VRMs overheat, is a pretty weird way to go about things, if you ask me. (edit: actually goes 200mhz under stock. edit: Also ASUS 6+2 phase designs can get very hot without throttling, so there's safety design choices to consider as well.)

Anyway, Red can probably tell us first hand if there were any heat issues.
Edited by Tivan - 1/10/15 at 12:10pm
Cute PC
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4930k@4200 Sabertooth x79 R9 290 Tri-X@950/1250 4x4GB@2133CL9 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Crucial BX100 Mugen 4 Win7 Benq xl2411z 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
NEC EA231WMi QPad-MK50 (reds) Seasonic S12G 750 Define R4  
MouseMouse PadAudio
Deathadder 3.5G BE Razer Goliathus Speed Edition Large Onboard 
  hide details  
Reply
Cute PC
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4930k@4200 Sabertooth x79 R9 290 Tri-X@950/1250 4x4GB@2133CL9 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Crucial BX100 Mugen 4 Win7 Benq xl2411z 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
NEC EA231WMi QPad-MK50 (reds) Seasonic S12G 750 Define R4  
MouseMouse PadAudio
Deathadder 3.5G BE Razer Goliathus Speed Edition Large Onboard 
  hide details  
Reply
post #572 of 675
Thread Starter 
Quote:
.......I want to give another hint all the quality in the world of chips / chokes and such cannot make up for the lack of cooling put on this specific board as I said which will reduce the efficiency of the VRM's and cause throttling and cause possible failure / stability issues lack of cooling is again a lack of quality is it not so again my statement is valid.

 

If you are convinced from the review you cite, then don't purchase an Asrock board. I am a reviewer as well and have not had the issues you seem insist ant on.

Specifically the Extreme 6+ that I happen to be using in the 7850 build. I have been running it at 4.8Ghz for a while now with no additional cooling on the VRM without issues. 

2.2 kW Holodeck
(14 items)
 
Chernobyl
(0 items)
Power Station
(0 items)
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-8350 @ 5.2GHz Gigabyte GA-990-FXA-UD7 4 x MSI R 290X 4GB Gaming 16GB Corsair Dominator Platinum 2133 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
4 x Seagate 1 TB 7200 2 x Asus Optiarc Koolance 370 CPU WB/ AlphaCool Water cooling: ... Windows 7 Professional 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
1x3+1 Eyefiniy 5760x1080 Gigabyte 8100K V.2 1-AX1200w + 2x FSP x500w Coolermaster Cosmos II Full Tower 
  hide details  
Reply
2.2 kW Holodeck
(14 items)
 
Chernobyl
(0 items)
Power Station
(0 items)
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-8350 @ 5.2GHz Gigabyte GA-990-FXA-UD7 4 x MSI R 290X 4GB Gaming 16GB Corsair Dominator Platinum 2133 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
4 x Seagate 1 TB 7200 2 x Asus Optiarc Koolance 370 CPU WB/ AlphaCool Water cooling: ... Windows 7 Professional 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
1x3+1 Eyefiniy 5760x1080 Gigabyte 8100K V.2 1-AX1200w + 2x FSP x500w Coolermaster Cosmos II Full Tower 
  hide details  
Reply
post #573 of 675
Quote:
Originally Posted by Red1776 View Post

Specifically the Extreme 6+ that I happen to be using in the 7850 build. I have been running it at 4.8Ghz for a while now with no additional cooling on the VRM without issues. 

Yes about that... smile.gif I understand you are a busy man, but how about you toss us a new benchmark or something. I had wet dreams about that system ever since I saw it and the lack of news about it makes my heart ake buttkick.gif

Don't you break my heart Red! My achy breaky heart! smile.gif)))))))
Edited by RaduZ - 1/10/15 at 2:47pm
post #574 of 675
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RaduZ View Post
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Red1776 View Post

Specifically the Extreme 6+ that I happen to be using in the 7850 build. I have been running it at 4.8Ghz for a while now with no additional cooling on the VRM without issues. 

Yes about that... smile.gif I understand you are a busy man, but how about you toss us a new benchmark or something. I had wet dreams about that system ever since I saw it and the lack of news about it makes my heart ake buttkick.gif

Don't you break my heart Red! My achy breaky heart! smile.gif)))))))

 

Hi Rad, :)

Glad you broached the subject. My next post was going to address just that. The last half of 2014 I had a string of unexpected and very serious health problems finding myself hospitalized and twice I almost got dead. 

It has been a very long recovery and I am back at it.

My apologies to those who have been looking forward to seeing the results of these builds however after a long convalescence I am in fact back at it.

Thanks for hanging in with me more on the project soon. :)

 

1000

 

350x700px-LL-f1c9ed66_holodecksphere.jpg

Greg

2.2 kW Holodeck
(14 items)
 
Chernobyl
(0 items)
Power Station
(0 items)
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-8350 @ 5.2GHz Gigabyte GA-990-FXA-UD7 4 x MSI R 290X 4GB Gaming 16GB Corsair Dominator Platinum 2133 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
4 x Seagate 1 TB 7200 2 x Asus Optiarc Koolance 370 CPU WB/ AlphaCool Water cooling: ... Windows 7 Professional 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
1x3+1 Eyefiniy 5760x1080 Gigabyte 8100K V.2 1-AX1200w + 2x FSP x500w Coolermaster Cosmos II Full Tower 
  hide details  
Reply
2.2 kW Holodeck
(14 items)
 
Chernobyl
(0 items)
Power Station
(0 items)
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-8350 @ 5.2GHz Gigabyte GA-990-FXA-UD7 4 x MSI R 290X 4GB Gaming 16GB Corsair Dominator Platinum 2133 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
4 x Seagate 1 TB 7200 2 x Asus Optiarc Koolance 370 CPU WB/ AlphaCool Water cooling: ... Windows 7 Professional 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
1x3+1 Eyefiniy 5760x1080 Gigabyte 8100K V.2 1-AX1200w + 2x FSP x500w Coolermaster Cosmos II Full Tower 
  hide details  
Reply
post #575 of 675
I am glad to hear you feel good again, and I hope this time it lasts. thumb.gif

I think we all knew you had good reasons for taking a break so don't worry, take your time, just send ower regards to the 7850K and his big brother. smile.gif
post #576 of 675
Quote:
Originally Posted by Red1776 View Post

Quote:
.......I want to give another hint all the quality in the world of chips / chokes and such cannot make up for the lack of cooling put on this specific board as I said which will reduce the efficiency of the VRM's and cause throttling and cause possible failure / stability issues lack of cooling is again a lack of quality is it not so again my statement is valid.

If you are convinced from the review you cite, then don't purchase an Asrock board. I am a reviewer as well and have not had the issues you seem insist ant on.
Specifically the Extreme 6+ that I happen to be using in the 7850 build. I have been running it at 4.8Ghz for a while now with no additional cooling on the VRM without issues. 

I want to point this out read some of the negative reviews on newegg / amazon most you see end with smoke and almost fire as a end result on these boards so PLZ I will base reviews of actuall daily use over a simple benchmark review anyday so PLZ understand your usage / testing may not be inline with actual possible workload of a gamer that does rendering out video and such of gameplay and so on or that of a streamer your testing / experience with this board may in theory have nearly 0 relevance to what is the normal experience.

your benchmarking methods seem to be more of a single short hell run style line of benching not a sustained multiple usage ran 24/7 experience which is most relevant testing that can be done. A few users may have theyre setups OC'd and rendering out video overnight while they sleep many gamers do this to utilize the time when they are not actively using the machine to game record / stream. I want to point this out is anything really much harder than say rendering out a set of videos overnight for around 6 or so hours with CPU at 100% load. I do this all the time myself on my overclocked I7 rig and OC'd 8350 rig also which they are not not used for gaming the one in my sig is my dedicated gaming rig.
Edited by rickcooperjr - 1/10/15 at 6:48pm
My System
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel I7 5820k 4.6ghz core 4.3ghz CPU cache 1.345v asus sabertooth X99 sold R9 290x's am currently running a R9 280A X... 16gb of ddr4 corsair vengeance LPX 3200mhz 1t 1... 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
M.2 Toshiba OCZ RD400 512gb ASUS DVD rw  liquid cooled cpu and gpu's windows 10 pro 64bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
3 x 32lcd/led 2560x1600 wolfking timberwolf EVGA supernova 1300w G2  Thermaltake core X9 
MouseMouse PadOther
steel series wow cataclysm 14button programable  wolfking sniper Intel PRO PT dual port PCIe server NIC 
  hide details  
Reply
My System
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel I7 5820k 4.6ghz core 4.3ghz CPU cache 1.345v asus sabertooth X99 sold R9 290x's am currently running a R9 280A X... 16gb of ddr4 corsair vengeance LPX 3200mhz 1t 1... 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
M.2 Toshiba OCZ RD400 512gb ASUS DVD rw  liquid cooled cpu and gpu's windows 10 pro 64bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
3 x 32lcd/led 2560x1600 wolfking timberwolf EVGA supernova 1300w G2  Thermaltake core X9 
MouseMouse PadOther
steel series wow cataclysm 14button programable  wolfking sniper Intel PRO PT dual port PCIe server NIC 
  hide details  
Reply
post #577 of 675
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rickcooperjr View Post
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Red1776 View Post
 
Quote:
.......I want to give another hint all the quality in the world of chips / chokes and such cannot make up for the lack of cooling put on this specific board as I said which will reduce the efficiency of the VRM's and cause throttling and cause possible failure / stability issues lack of cooling is again a lack of quality is it not so again my statement is valid.

If you are convinced from the review you cite, then don't purchase an Asrock board. I am a reviewer as well and have not had the issues you seem insist ant on.
Specifically the Extreme 6+ that I happen to be using in the 7850 build. I have been running it at 4.8Ghz for a while now with no additional cooling on the VRM without issues. 

I want to point this out read some of the negative reviews on newegg / amazon most you see end with smoke and almost fire as a end result on these boards so PLZ I will base reviews of actuall daily use over a simple benchmark review anyday so PLZ understand your usage / testing may not be inline with actual possible workload of a gamer that does rendering out video and such of gameplay and so on or that of a streamer your testing / experience with this board may in theory have nearly 0 relevance to what is the normal experience.

your benchmarking methods seem to be more of a single short hell run style line of benching not a sustained multiple usage ran 24/7 experience which is most relevant testing that can be done. A few users may have theyre setups OC'd and rendering out video overnight while they sleep many gamers do this to utilize the time when they are not actively using the machine to game record / stream. I want to point this out is anything really much harder than say rendering out a set of videos overnight for around 6 or so hours with CPU at 100% load. I do this all the time myself on my overclocked I7 rig and OC'd 8350 rig also which they are not not used for gaming the one in my sig is my dedicated gaming rig.

That sir is an assumption on your part. I pointed out that I have been running ( for one) my Extreme 6+ at 4.8 fort months. This is one of my computers i use in my daily normal life and in fact is the machine I am writing this on. I have in use (or have before upgrading ) many Asrock boards that have been used OC'd in day to day use.

I too do a lot of rendering on 3DS Max 2013, and film editing. These machines are also used for a great deal of gaming as well. This machine for example is running dual GPU's. 

Why you presume to know my computer use habits is beyond me, however applications that stress the capabilities of the components is a prerequisite for me. I have been very pleased with a great many of the Asrock MB's both AMD and Intel of the last two years.

2.2 kW Holodeck
(14 items)
 
Chernobyl
(0 items)
Power Station
(0 items)
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-8350 @ 5.2GHz Gigabyte GA-990-FXA-UD7 4 x MSI R 290X 4GB Gaming 16GB Corsair Dominator Platinum 2133 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
4 x Seagate 1 TB 7200 2 x Asus Optiarc Koolance 370 CPU WB/ AlphaCool Water cooling: ... Windows 7 Professional 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
1x3+1 Eyefiniy 5760x1080 Gigabyte 8100K V.2 1-AX1200w + 2x FSP x500w Coolermaster Cosmos II Full Tower 
  hide details  
Reply
2.2 kW Holodeck
(14 items)
 
Chernobyl
(0 items)
Power Station
(0 items)
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-8350 @ 5.2GHz Gigabyte GA-990-FXA-UD7 4 x MSI R 290X 4GB Gaming 16GB Corsair Dominator Platinum 2133 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
4 x Seagate 1 TB 7200 2 x Asus Optiarc Koolance 370 CPU WB/ AlphaCool Water cooling: ... Windows 7 Professional 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
1x3+1 Eyefiniy 5760x1080 Gigabyte 8100K V.2 1-AX1200w + 2x FSP x500w Coolermaster Cosmos II Full Tower 
  hide details  
Reply
post #578 of 675
Quote:
Originally Posted by Red1776 View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by rickcooperjr View Post

 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Red1776 View Post

 
Quote:
.......I want to give another hint all the quality in the world of chips / chokes and such cannot make up for the lack of cooling put on this specific board as I said which will reduce the efficiency of the VRM's and cause throttling and cause possible failure / stability issues lack of cooling is again a lack of quality is it not so again my statement is valid.


If you are convinced from the review you cite, then don't purchase an Asrock board. I am a reviewer as well and have not had the issues you seem insist ant on.

Specifically the Extreme 6+ that I happen to be using in the 7850 build. I have been running it at 4.8Ghz for a while now with no additional cooling on the VRM without issues. 


I want to point this out read some of the negative reviews on newegg / amazon most you see end with smoke and almost fire as a end result on these boards so PLZ I will base reviews of actuall daily use over a simple benchmark review anyday so PLZ understand your usage / testing may not be inline with actual possible workload of a gamer that does rendering out video and such of gameplay and so on or that of a streamer your testing / experience with this board may in theory have nearly 0 relevance to what is the normal experience.


your benchmarking methods seem to be more of a single short hell run style line of benching not a sustained multiple usage ran 24/7 experience which is most relevant testing that can be done. A few users may have theyre setups OC'd and rendering out video overnight while they sleep many gamers do this to utilize the time when they are not actively using the machine to game record / stream. I want to point this out is anything really much harder than say rendering out a set of videos overnight for around 6 or so hours with CPU at 100% load. I do this all the time myself on my overclocked I7 rig and OC'd 8350 rig also which they are not not used for gaming the one in my sig is my dedicated gaming rig.
That sir is an assumption on your part. I pointed out that I have been running ( for one) my Extreme 6+ at 4.8 fort months. This is one of my computers i use in my daily normal life and in fact is the machine I am writing this on. I have in use (or have before upgrading ) many Asrock boards that have been used OC'd in day to day use.
I too do a lot of rendering on 3DS Max 2013, and film editing. These machines are also used for a great deal of gaming as well. This machine for example is running dual GPU's. 
Why you presume to know my computer use habits is beyond me, however applications that stress the capabilities of the components is a prerequisite for me. I have been very pleased with a great many of the Asrock MB's both AMD and Intel of the last two years.

I just thought you were like every other reviewer / tester and took the prefab usual benchmark approach TY for the info I am sorry if it felt like an attack a true daily runner reviewer is rare and far between most test with prefab benches and such and only use the machines for the short hell runs for a short period of time then move on to the next thing to test / review. I will say this it is very nice to find someone like me that tests things in the real world expectation wise. I myself do hardware testing for a few companies but not on the large scale it is more of an occasional thing / hobby now I myself don't get paid to test said hardware but do get discounts on hardware for myself.

I would like to apologize I mistook you as being the usual reviewer / tester type not a real world everyday user / tester / reviewer I am sorry for this misunderstanding I am just fed up with the way most reviewers / testers do things and don't come at things in a way that is relevant / realistic to the end user in the long run.
Edited by rickcooperjr - 1/10/15 at 9:25pm
My System
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel I7 5820k 4.6ghz core 4.3ghz CPU cache 1.345v asus sabertooth X99 sold R9 290x's am currently running a R9 280A X... 16gb of ddr4 corsair vengeance LPX 3200mhz 1t 1... 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
M.2 Toshiba OCZ RD400 512gb ASUS DVD rw  liquid cooled cpu and gpu's windows 10 pro 64bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
3 x 32lcd/led 2560x1600 wolfking timberwolf EVGA supernova 1300w G2  Thermaltake core X9 
MouseMouse PadOther
steel series wow cataclysm 14button programable  wolfking sniper Intel PRO PT dual port PCIe server NIC 
  hide details  
Reply
My System
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel I7 5820k 4.6ghz core 4.3ghz CPU cache 1.345v asus sabertooth X99 sold R9 290x's am currently running a R9 280A X... 16gb of ddr4 corsair vengeance LPX 3200mhz 1t 1... 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
M.2 Toshiba OCZ RD400 512gb ASUS DVD rw  liquid cooled cpu and gpu's windows 10 pro 64bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
3 x 32lcd/led 2560x1600 wolfking timberwolf EVGA supernova 1300w G2  Thermaltake core X9 
MouseMouse PadOther
steel series wow cataclysm 14button programable  wolfking sniper Intel PRO PT dual port PCIe server NIC 
  hide details  
Reply
post #579 of 675
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rickcooperjr View Post
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Red1776 View Post
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rickcooperjr View Post

 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Red1776 View Post

 
Quote:
.......I want to give another hint all the quality in the world of chips / chokes and such cannot make up for the lack of cooling put on this specific board as I said which will reduce the efficiency of the VRM's and cause throttling and cause possible failure / stability issues lack of cooling is again a lack of quality is it not so again my statement is valid.


If you are convinced from the review you cite, then don't purchase an Asrock board. I am a reviewer as well and have not had the issues you seem insist ant on.

Specifically the Extreme 6+ that I happen to be using in the 7850 build. I have been running it at 4.8Ghz for a while now with no additional cooling on the VRM without issues. 


I want to point this out read some of the negative reviews on newegg / amazon most you see end with smoke and almost fire as a end result on these boards so PLZ I will base reviews of actuall daily use over a simple benchmark review anyday so PLZ understand your usage / testing may not be inline with actual possible workload of a gamer that does rendering out video and such of gameplay and so on or that of a streamer your testing / experience with this board may in theory have nearly 0 relevance to what is the normal experience.


your benchmarking methods seem to be more of a single short hell run style line of benching not a sustained multiple usage ran 24/7 experience which is most relevant testing that can be done. A few users may have theyre setups OC'd and rendering out video overnight while they sleep many gamers do this to utilize the time when they are not actively using the machine to game record / stream. I want to point this out is anything really much harder than say rendering out a set of videos overnight for around 6 or so hours with CPU at 100% load. I do this all the time myself on my overclocked I7 rig and OC'd 8350 rig also which they are not not used for gaming the one in my sig is my dedicated gaming rig.
That sir is an assumption on your part. I pointed out that I have been running ( for one) my Extreme 6+ at 4.8 fort months. This is one of my computers i use in my daily normal life and in fact is the machine I am writing this on. I have in use (or have before upgrading ) many Asrock boards that have been used OC'd in day to day use.
I too do a lot of rendering on 3DS Max 2013, and film editing. These machines are also used for a great deal of gaming as well. This machine for example is running dual GPU's. 
Why you presume to know my computer use habits is beyond me, however applications that stress the capabilities of the components is a prerequisite for me. I have been very pleased with a great many of the Asrock MB's both AMD and Intel of the last two years.

I just thought you were like every other reviewer / tester and took the prefab usual benchmark approach TY for the info I am sorry if it felt like an attack a true daily runner reviewer is rare and far between most test with prefab benches and such and only use the machines for the short hell runs for a short period of time then move on to the next thing to test / review. I will say this it is very nice to find someone like me that tests things in the real world expectation wise. I myself do hardware testing for a few companies but not on the large scale it is more of an occasional thing / hobby now I myself don't get paid to test said hardware but do get discounts on hardware for myself.

I would like to apologize I mistook you as being the usual reviewer / tester type not a real world everyday user / tester / reviewer I am sorry for this misunderstanding I am just fed up with the way most reviewers / testers do things and don't come at things in a way that is relevant / realistic to the end user in the long run.

nah, i just took it as debate. :)

the missing part of reviews is long term quality. i use a lot of what i review and try to do follow ups when i can. That's why i research the origin of individual components when doing reviews. 

I did a review of the Sabertooth a while back and it oc'd 250 MHz higher than the Z, or the UD7 and went to lengths to let readers know that it was an anomaly. I also did a followup review on the difference on boards with llc and those without.

anyway, no problem. believe me...I am all for challenging reviews :)

 

Greg

2.2 kW Holodeck
(14 items)
 
Chernobyl
(0 items)
Power Station
(0 items)
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-8350 @ 5.2GHz Gigabyte GA-990-FXA-UD7 4 x MSI R 290X 4GB Gaming 16GB Corsair Dominator Platinum 2133 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
4 x Seagate 1 TB 7200 2 x Asus Optiarc Koolance 370 CPU WB/ AlphaCool Water cooling: ... Windows 7 Professional 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
1x3+1 Eyefiniy 5760x1080 Gigabyte 8100K V.2 1-AX1200w + 2x FSP x500w Coolermaster Cosmos II Full Tower 
  hide details  
Reply
2.2 kW Holodeck
(14 items)
 
Chernobyl
(0 items)
Power Station
(0 items)
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-8350 @ 5.2GHz Gigabyte GA-990-FXA-UD7 4 x MSI R 290X 4GB Gaming 16GB Corsair Dominator Platinum 2133 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
4 x Seagate 1 TB 7200 2 x Asus Optiarc Koolance 370 CPU WB/ AlphaCool Water cooling: ... Windows 7 Professional 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
1x3+1 Eyefiniy 5760x1080 Gigabyte 8100K V.2 1-AX1200w + 2x FSP x500w Coolermaster Cosmos II Full Tower 
  hide details  
Reply
post #580 of 675
Good to have you back Red! thumb.gif

Hoping for your great recovery this year!

Happy new year!
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Build Logs
Overclock.net › Forums › Case Mods & Cases › Builds & Case Mods › Build Logs › AMD High Performance Project- By Red1776