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AMD Kaveri budget build for my father in law

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Hey guys, I've never built an AMD system before but when my father in law approached me about building him a budget system the new Kaveri chip sprang to my mind. I know the iGPU in this thing is the best there is and if I can avoid buying a discreet card then the cost is significantly reduced. This is what I put together on NE, can you guys review it and make any suggestions? I already have a case to put this in (CM690II) and he has a monitor. I think this would be a pretty powerful little budget build especially considering the fact that his monitor's resolution is only 1440x900 and he mostly plays Solitaire! smile.gif I tried to get the cheapest QUALITY items in every category:



Let me know if you guys have any suggestions please! Thanks! thumb.gif
post #2 of 55
Fast RAM is important for these builds, does he game at all or anything of the like(edit ok, so he plays cards. Got it)? The Kaveri will do everything he needs otherwise. Although if I recall Kaveri isn't priced very well at the moment.

I'll see what I can come up with.

*edit because I missed the answer to my own question*
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If you are building a APU system always go with fast RAM if there is a need for performance. I did notice your PSU was a rosewill and the RAM wasn't a highly known brand like Corsair or G.Skill. I would recommend not skimping on a PSU and purchase a 80 Bronze PSU from Corsair, Antec, SeaSonic, etc.
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Western Digital Caviar Blue 500Gb SATA III ASUS DVD/CD Corsair H80 Cooler Master 200mm 800RPM 
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Cooler Master 200mm 800RPM Rosewill 120mm 2000RPM Windows 7 Professional Hanspree HF225DPB 
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Western Digital Caviar Blue 500Gb SATA III ASUS DVD/CD Corsair H80 Cooler Master 200mm 800RPM 
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Cooler Master 200mm 800RPM Rosewill 120mm 2000RPM Windows 7 Professional Hanspree HF225DPB 
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Increasing the quality greatly for a small price increase, I'd stick with the Rosewill PSU myself. Keeping most of your build, just making the below changes.

APU+Motherboard Combo($270) - AMD A10-7850K + ASRock FM2A88X Extreme6+ FM2+ / FM2 AMD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1570588

RAM($75) - Team Zeus Yellow 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313433

Optical($15 with promo code EMCPGWW37) - LITE-ON DVD Burner - Bulk 24X
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289

Total Price(with changes) - $504 everything has free shipping. Rebates not included, if any.

Team has some very good quality RAM, although "Zeus" RAM is a new line, so I can't speak directly for its quality. You might want to trade up for the tried and true vulcan variety, it's also a bit faster, although this is when diminishing returns start to happen.

RAM($77) - Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2400
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313398
Edited by Alanim - 3/11/14 at 10:56pm
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Thanks a bunch Alanim! That's definitely a bit stronger of a build with no cost increase so I'll take it! thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

Thanks a bunch Alanim! That's definitely a bit stronger of a build with no cost increase so I'll take it! thumb.gif

I made a small edit at the bottom, as I can only attest to the quality of their Vulcan RAM, but not their Zeus RAM(New variety). If you want to spend the extra 2 dollars.
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I did notice your PSU was a rosewill. I would recommend not skimping on a PSU and purchase a 80 Bronze PSU from Corsair, Antec, SeaSonic, etc.

Rosewill Capstone is fine no need to change it its not a bad unit

Also 80 plus has nothing to do with quality nor has brand both Seasonic Antec and Corsair has crappy units
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Capstone (superflower) is very high quality psu.
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G105 Rosewill Capstone 550M HAF XB M570 
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Athlon 860K MSI A88X-G45 MSI GTX 460 G.Skill RipjawsZ 
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G105 Rosewill Capstone 550M HAF XB M570 
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Athlon 860K MSI A88X-G45 MSI GTX 460 G.Skill RipjawsZ 
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post #9 of 55
And the case is?
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Majin,

Compare the following to your build, see what you think...

CPU + Memory Combo: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz + G.Skill Ares 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 ($255 @ Newegg)
Faster, higher efficiency CPU and higher quality (lower voltage) memory.

Motherboard + PSU Combo: Gigabyte GA-B85M-D3H + Capstone 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ($127 @ Newegg)
upgrade to modular PSU and comparable quality/feature motherboard.

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Same

Optical Drive: Lite-On IHAS324-07 DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Similar

Keyboard+Mouse: Logitech Wireless Combo MK270 Wireless Standard Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($23.99 @ Newegg)
Same

Total: $486.40
$15 less.

I've replicated the same part-coverage (no case?) as the original build, and pointed out why Kaveri is DOA@$185 for most builds.

The only time Kaveri is faster than the i5 is in specialized workloads. I don't believe you have described the sort of user who will gain anything from going Kaveri vs Haswell. Haswell has a very competent iGPU (excessive for browsing the web and playing cards, even has a very powerful hardware video decoder, one of the best available in ANY GPU in fact). I expect this Haswell will be faster and quieter while using less power than Kaveri for this type of build. Consider dropping to the i3-4130 to save ~$80.

AMD budget class stuff is really better suited to performance tuners and enthusiasts who are going to deviate from stock settings for the novelty of performance tuning. I have a hard time recommending AMD budget class stuff unless it is going to be performance tuned.
Edited by mdocod - 3/12/14 at 9:42am
     
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FX-8350 990X EVO R2.0 Sparkle GTX460 768MB ballistix tactical 2 x 8GB 
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OSMonitorMonitorMonitor
Manjaro Linux Samsung 21.5" LCD E2009WFP E2009WFP 
PowerCase
Seasonic G 550W Modular Fractal Design Core 3500 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-6300, 4.7 GHZ@1.43V GA-970A-UD3P GTX 460 768MB Mixed DIMMs. 2x4GB + 2x8GB @ 1600-8-8-8 
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Toshiba THNSNH 19nm 256GB 1TB Spinpoint F3 WD RE3 1TB WD RE3 1TB 
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yes CM Seidon 120V SolydK OpenSuse 13.1 
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Linux Mint 9-32 bit // Linux Mint 17-64 bit  Manjaro Xfce Samsung 21.5" HannsG 21.5" sideways! 
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Sticky ATNG Rosewill Green 630W NZXT Gamma Basic Microsoft corded 
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A10-6800k 4.8GHZ @ 1.375V, 1.2GHZ iGPU Gigabyte GA-F2A85XN-WIFI HD8670D Ripjaws 
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Seagate ST1000DM003 Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Zalman CNPS5X Linux Mint 15 
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LG IPS224V-PN Logitec K360 FSP 400W Aurum S 80+ gold Prodigy 
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FX-8350 990X EVO R2.0 Sparkle GTX460 768MB ballistix tactical 2 x 8GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Toshiiba THNSNH 256GB Enterprise RE3 1TB Asus BD combo drive Artic A30 
OSMonitorMonitorMonitor
Manjaro Linux Samsung 21.5" LCD E2009WFP E2009WFP 
PowerCase
Seasonic G 550W Modular Fractal Design Core 3500 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-6300, 4.7 GHZ@1.43V GA-970A-UD3P GTX 460 768MB Mixed DIMMs. 2x4GB + 2x8GB @ 1600-8-8-8 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Toshiba THNSNH 19nm 256GB 1TB Spinpoint F3 WD RE3 1TB WD RE3 1TB 
Optical DriveCoolingOSOS
yes CM Seidon 120V SolydK OpenSuse 13.1 
OSOSMonitorMonitor
Linux Mint 9-32 bit // Linux Mint 17-64 bit  Manjaro Xfce Samsung 21.5" HannsG 21.5" sideways! 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Sticky ATNG Rosewill Green 630W NZXT Gamma Basic Microsoft corded 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
A10-6800k 4.8GHZ @ 1.375V, 1.2GHZ iGPU Gigabyte GA-F2A85XN-WIFI HD8670D Ripjaws 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Seagate ST1000DM003 Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Zalman CNPS5X Linux Mint 15 
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LG IPS224V-PN Logitec K360 FSP 400W Aurum S 80+ gold Prodigy 
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logitec M235 
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