Originally Posted by Durquavian
And this is why so many argue with you. You think you are always right. Think of it from a standpoint of honor and respect.
I'm a self-proclaimed know-it-all. I don't have any respect for you because I think you are a narrow minded AMD shill who routinely holds me to double standards.
But nothing changes the fact that likely the user would never care that they had a mechanical drive and on the simple fact that the user may be short of computer knowledge a mechanical drive might be the better choice ( defrag possibility ). A 5 year old i3 would suffice in that case as well.
You're missing the point. Nobody starts a thread to build a custom computer because they want something that will "just suffice." The whole point here was to try to get a nice quality machine made from high value known-quality parts. The conditions that you are holding ME TO if applied to the thread as a whole, would defeat the entire purpose of even having the thread in the first place.
For the original build the Kaveri would have been an excellent choice.
Yes it would have worked fine, but I believe I made a very reasonable case for the i5 being a better choice in that price class for non-enthusiast users. If you disagree, explain why, quit complaining about me and start sharing some useful information. The only thing I see you doing here, id defending the AMD solution for the sake of defending the AMD solution with no basis in anything tangible besides "it's good enough."
If any changes needed to be made for the other parts according to stability and reliability of the parts then by all means it must be said.
You're admitting your favoritism for "locking in" that AMD CPU choice here. I don't believe there should be any "aura of protection" that locks in the decision to go AMD as soon as someone mutters the idea. Most of the people these days who are turning to AMD for a budget class build for family/friends are doing so under false pretenses lingering from a bygone era when AMD really had the faster, more efficient, more feature rich lower cost CPU. Intel isn't making P4's anymore. There are competitive options on both sides of the isle worth considering at every price class that AMD and Intel compete in.
But no other CPU/APU in existence in this case would have mattered or made a significant difference in the outcome of the users end experience.
Just because any CPU will work doesn't mean it's not possible to weigh the options and try to pick a "best solution." Knowing which is the better solution for a particular application is something I pride myself on because I do the homework to know the answer to that. I test, I read, I compare, I analyze, I measure. Simply put, you can call me a smart-A$$ because I am one and I have no problems with that. I am sitting in a room with a Haswell rig, an FX rig, and a Richland rig. I have direct experience with these CPUs and know where they stand. Beyond that I research this stuff with a passion.
You need to take a step back and look at it for what it is. Asking why someone chose a CPU/APU is fine
Actually, asking loaded questions is FROWNED UPON here. It's BAD etiquette to step into a thread and just question everything in a loaded manner (planning an opportunity to "correct" someone). I *try* to avoid this behavior by cutting straight to the point because I believe it is far more respectful.
but the moment you start pushing an alternative where the end result has no bearing or, in the case of another thread you attempted this same thing, The choice in CPU was made clear from the get go, then you are not so innocent and do nothing more than flame and cause arguments where there was no reason for such.
The only thing I am guilty of, is having the nerve, and the spine to say it like it is as far as CPUs are concerned among childish fanboys like yourself.Edited by mdocod - 3/28/14 at 7:23pm