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post #21 of 29
Grab a PSU and then a GPU. I do not recommend skimping on the PSU. Later on if you decide to upgrade your motherboard and ram you might want to consider getting a better cpu also. The reason why you would want to get a newer mobo is DDR3 memory, SATA3 6Gb/s for SSD and better overclocking abilities, there is still a potential in your cpu.
post #22 of 29
I'd recommend a 750/750ti if you are looking at getting a GPU. Cheap and extremely efficient power wise. Can play lots of games at 1080 pretty well.
 
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i guess i'm asking about the actual likelihood; is this more common that liquid cooling getting loose and destroying your system? i've only ever had PSU's fail as non-starts, and a friend of mine who used to operate a LAN center with about thirty cheap-ass computers in it, was constantly swapping out no-name PSU's, but never motherboards, so i guess my experience biases me against the whole concern, especially in a budget rig.

Also, is PSU failure that destroys a system known to originate in the PSU through a specific cause, or could this just be misplaced blame for electric utility misbehavior that the cheap PSUs' circuit protection fails to block?
I have had 3 dead/malfunctioning no-name PSUs before and they were powering not a powerful system at all. Luckily, they didn't damage my old pc and if they would damage it, I wouldn't care because it was old trash. Though, I could buy one somewhat ok PSU for the price of 3 no-names that would work just fine and save my self from headaches.

Edit: cheap PSUs do not have over power, over voltage, over temperature, short-circuit protections as more expensive counterparts. In these cases, cheap PSUs will let your PC fry.
Edited by om3nz - 3/13/14 at 1:34pm
post #24 of 29
I'm surprised no one has suggested a solid state drive as part of an upgrade yet.

While it would require a re-install of the OS, I feel it really is one of the best upgrades for the price.
Crucial M500 128 is going for $75 on newegg right now. I have the 240GB version in my laptop, and it's running like a champ next to my Sammy 840 Pro.

Definitely upgrade that PSU though.
post #25 of 29
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Well As for looking past the brand names and into the Original Equipment Manufacturer, HARDOCP has fantastic and easy to find reviews on PSUs.
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This site is better http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page5471.htm
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post #26 of 29
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This site is better http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page5471.htm
I just gonna bow out on PSUs you got this.
post #27 of 29
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i must be missing something on the PSU front here; with or without a single HD 7850 or R7 260x or similar non-monstrous card, his system isn't going to be pushing the limits of a 500W PSU, according to calculators and to experience. Isn't the whole downside of a cheap PSU, like he's got, that one day it dies on you? Until that day arrives, won't he see zero gain from a PSU upgrade? So why replace it when it's still working, and when all contemplated upgrades are still within its wattage rating? It's not like a system like that is going to overload the 12v rails either, it's just not THAT much of a power hog, especially at stock speeds.

Don't get me wrong, it's a wise investment ahead of other potentially major upgrades, but as a one part performance upgrade, it seems like going from a working cheap power supply to a working quality power supply won't provide even a shred of perceptible benefit. Unless what you're concerned about is some power stability/throttling type concern that i know nothing about, in which case i want to hear about it.

It's old,number one and it was probably dangerous when it was new. You can't build a house on a crumbling foundation.


OP, sell the 1090t,mobo and RAM

CPU-$150
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113360
Motherboard-$95
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157477
RAM-$75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx/item=9SIA0ST14J0945
PSU-$55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151074
SSD-$65
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211719

$450..plus easy to upgrade later.



There is too much beneficial newer tech out there to keep patching the old. thumb.gif
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post #28 of 29
Sell the motherboard + DDR2 for $40 on craigslist.

Sell the Thuban on ebay for $200 (not kidding).

Go to microcenter. Pick up the FX-6300+UD3P combo for $160.

Pick up a nice quality 2x4GB DDR3 kit: There's almost always a G.skill or Crucial brand 1600-8-8-8@1.5V or 1866-9-9-9@1.5V kit for ~$80 (+/-$10) lately.

Pick a high value ~$150 (+/-$50) GPU: HD7790, R7 260X, R9 270, GTX 750, GTX 750Ti, GTX650Ti, GTX660. (FYI: if someone tells you to avoid the GTX660 it is because they are confused by it. The inability to understand it, causes a negative reaction to it. Ignore advise from people who can't get their head around this GPU)

Purchase great quality ~450-650W PSU. A SeaSonic S12G-550 for ~$75 would be a good choice.

Pick up a 240GB SSD to replace the old mechanical drive as your primary system drive. Crucial M500 $108@NCIX right now.

Assemble the parts, install OS, learn about performance tuning (its lots of fun, if you're the tinkering type). You're already in the right place. Plan on spending $40-50 on a high value CPU cooler like the Zalman CNPS14X or 9900 MAX or CM 120V. learn to clock that FX to ~5ghz territory and enjoy.

That's around $400.

If you don't have an MC nearby, never-mind, scrap the whole plan.
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post #29 of 29
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It's old,number one and it was probably dangerous when it was new. You can't build a house on a crumbling foundation.


OP, sell the 1090t,mobo and RAM

CPU-$150
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113360
Motherboard-$95
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157477
RAM-$75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx/item=9SIA0ST14J0945
PSU-$55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151074
SSD-$65
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211719

$450..plus easy to upgrade later.



There is too much beneficial newer tech out there to keep patching the old. thumb.gif

That's certainly a very good way to go, but for that money he could do...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157479 ($134.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487025 ($159.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231460 ($85.99)

And still be a good $70 cheaper. That can go towards the PSU i guess, and still have built a more powerful rig for less money. The APU system (while awesome and forward-looking) still won't outperform a 6 core Phenom in a 990fx mobo with a 750 ti discrete card.

If he wanted to minimize his investment, he could realize major performance gains with
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128627 ($84.79)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104262 ($64.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487027 ($119.99)
And still have a machine no APU can touch, for under $300.00. In fact, that's a rig i'd be proud to own. Only thing i don't like is the 1.65 v on that memory. So for that money he could also get the SSD and PSU from your list, and basically have every single upgrade suggested in this thread, for under $450.00.

I didn't check the compatibility lists for these, don't just run out and buy them (although they should be perfectly sound builds, weird things happen and that's what the lists are for). My point is that as soon as you start considering replacing the entire rig, you put a big dent in the value proposition, to the point where (by discarding the most valuable parts of the existing system) you can end up spending more money to get an inferior machine, compared to patching something together.

I guess this might be the plan B for if there's no Microcenter around.
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