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I know but io already purchased the board and had my heart set on that chip. would you know if the AMD cores have threads? I know Intel does I think the 6 core ones are 2 threads per core but I don't know for AMD?
Take the board back. Should always make sure before you buy anything.
4770k is 4 cores and 8 threads.
9590 is 8 cores and 8 threads.

When it comes to gaming, that is different. Some game are heavily cpu bound and only use 1-2 cores. This is where Intel will shine. Speed alone wont help bridge the gap.
    
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I was really think about it but I really had my heart set on that 8 core chip. is AMD that bad of a chip? and by the way I went with a 1300 watt evga supernova PS
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I was really think about it but I really had my heart set on that 8 core chip. is AMD that bad of a chip? and by the way I went with a 1300 watt evga supernova PS

 

omg you wasted your money. How much was it? $350 or more? I mean, seriously. We told you that you don't need anything more than a good quality-made 750-850W PSU (850W would be overkill).

 

So, we wasted our time? You spent about $220 more than you really needed to!! If it cost more than $350, then you wasted more than $220! You could have spent that ~$220 on something else!

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NO I got the EVGA 1300watt G2 for 229$ good deal on EBAY
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don't forget im adding some fans and 2 swiftech pumps later. I just cant afford the GPU waterblocks rightnow because I have to buy 3 of them that sucks. 3 4gb evga GTX670's
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NO I got the EVGA 1300watt G2 for 229$ good deal on EBAY

 

 

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don't forget im adding some fans and 2 swiftech pumps later. I just cant afford the GPU waterblocks rightnow because I have to buy 3 of them that sucks. 3 4gb evga GTX670's

 

No, that's not going to add enough power consumption to make a difference. So, I still say that you spent $100 more than you needed to and your average efficiency probably won't reach "Gold" either due to the power consumption being so low.

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well I was on the evga web sight. each GTX 670 4gb draws 170 watts each than x 3 plus 225 watts for the CPU comes to about 735 watts in total. than I added for the MB Ram HD's and fans and what ever else I decide to add on. I figured the 1000 watt was perfect and for a few dollars more the 1300 watt was availbe.
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Take the board back. Should always make sure before you buy anything.
4770k is 4 cores and 8 threads.
9590 is 8 cores and 8 threads.

When it comes to gaming, that is different. Some game are heavily cpu bound and only use 1-2 cores. This is where Intel will shine. Speed alone wont help bridge the gap.

i have a follow up question to this
(i am very sorry for thread jacking)

so i know that the 4770 is 4 cores with 8 threads
and like the 9590 or the 8350/8320 is 8 cores 8 threads.

but how come everyone says the 4770 is better? (i know that the 4770 is beter in single core)
but what about overall? which would be better in CPU bound tasks including games likes SC II, professional work, etc etc.
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i have a follow up question to this
(i am very sorry for thread jacking)

so i know that the 4770 is 4 cores with 8 threads
and like the 9590 or the 8350/8320 is 8 cores 8 threads.

but how come everyone says the 4770 is better? (i know that the 4770 is beter in single core)
but what about overall? which would be better in CPU bound tasks including games likes SC II, professional work, etc etc.

AMD's FX 8xxx and 9xxx are four-module 8-thread chips

In a load that only uses 1-4 heavy threads, they run one thread on each module. If there is good scaling to more threads, they can run a second thread on each module with some performance penalty (not "true" 8 core), sometimes not adding so much but sometimes essentially doubling performance

They scale well onto 8 threads but the lack of performance from each module means that they kinda need the task to scale like that and use those resources just to keep up with the 4670k (they don't pull far ahead with the extra threads, they tend to fall behind without them)

sc2 is a special case which loves Haswell and IPC as well as memory/cache performance so it runs significantly better, in the leagues of twice as well on Haswell over FX. On well threaded CPU limited games, 4670k and FX 8-thread tend to be very close. On CPU limited games that are dependent on 1-4 threads, Intel tends to pull ahead, sometimes far

An fx8320 @4ghz will sometimes perform better than an fx6300 at 4ghz if you have a four threaded load that would want to use some of the shared resources, because the 6300 has three modules that can run independant loads and then it has to run the fourth thread on one of those modules at a performance penalty, while the fx8320 could just load each of the four threads on one module each
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well I was on the evga web sight. each GTX 670 4gb draws 170 watts each than x 3 plus 225 watts for the CPU comes to about 735 watts in total. than I added for the MB Ram HD's and fans and what ever else I decide to add on. I figured the 1000 watt was perfect and for a few dollars more the 1300 watt was availbe.

 

No, they pull less power than that.

 

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_670_2_and_3way_sli_review,4.html

 

With three GTX 670s in Tri-SLI under full load, the 3 cards alone pulled 433W from the PSU. With an idling CPU (no load on it) but with a full load on the three GTX 670s, their PSU pulled 583W from the wall outlet.  That's the entire system, with an idling CPU. So, if I add 220W for the CPU, then that makes the PSU pulling 803W from the wall outlet. This means that if your PSU is 90% efficient while pulling 803W from the wall outlet, then the computer is actually pulling 722W from the PSU. Your power consumption while gaming though will be even lower than that, being anywhere from 600-700W, sometimes even less than 600 - depending on the game. Since this is not a Folding rig but a gaming rig, you could power this with a good quality-made 750W PSU if you really wanted to, but I would recommend a good quality-made 850W PSU just in case you get one that has a loud fan. lol

 

Of course, if you overclock your CPU, then that will increase its power consumption, especially if you increase its voltage. The same is true for the 670s, of course.


Edited by TwoCables - 3/22/14 at 1:08pm
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