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MSI r9 280x throttling in furmark

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Greetings, been running furmark to check for stability and after about 30 seconds of running at default clock the voltage starts dropping to 1.144 then back to 1.2 again, this coincides with reduced freq and gpu usage, basically gpu-z is showing only spikes across the board. This is at default settings. If i change the power limit at +10 or higher this problem goes away and i can even overclock the card no problems. The question is : is it ok for a brand new card to throttle in furmark at default settings?

The card is R9 280X Gaming 3G
VGA BIOS ver: 015.042
Latest beta drivers
Win7 64
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post #2 of 11
Furmarks purpose is to generate as much heat as possible.

So yes, it will throttle eventually

what is your core and vrm1 temp when it starts to throttle?
post #3 of 11
Uninstall furmark and don't use that anymore. Its a pretty useless tool for anything besides making heat. I'v overclocked cards and "stability tested" with furmark and passed 15+ minutes of it several times, only to crash while watching youtube videos or something.If you want to stability test then play games, that's real testing that a synthetic program like furmark cant do. The other week I was using it to see how hot my VRMs got after I installed a custom cooler on my cards, and it was in the 95C range which is getting way too high for me (yeah they can run 120C but still) and I was quite upset with the cooler performance. But in actual games, my VRM temps were no more than 65C which is equal/better than allot of other coolers. Plus my GPU temp never went over 45C on air cooling during gaming. So, overall I think furmark isn't worth using for any reason.

Personally, my favorite stress tester is Skyrim because I can play it for a couple hours before I even know it. It also had very noticeable effects if there's instability. Usually if a overclock is unstable it won't be more than 10 minutes before Skyrim will start getting black lines or weird colors, such as pink animals or it may simply just crash. I'v rarely had any instability if it can play Skyrim for over an hour.
Edited by Shaded War - 3/12/14 at 5:20am
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ty for the replies, i know furmark is **** for testing an oc, still, it isn't **** for checking if boards can deliver the rated power. Core Temp was at 73C. I have no clue what the VRM temp is because msi decided not to include the sensor with this revision of 280x... I did however monitor the power draw at the wall and when the card was throttling the power kept jumping between 320w and 390w.
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post #5 of 11
TDP on the 280x is 250, so its probobly hitting the cieling.
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Originally Posted by emdea22 View Post

ty for the replies, i know furmark is **** for testing an oc, still, it isn't **** for checking if boards can deliver the rated power. Core Temp was at 73C. I have no clue what the VRM temp is because msi decided not to include the sensor with this revision of 280x... I did however monitor the power draw at the wall and when the card was throttling the power kept jumping between 320w and 390w.

The GPU shouldn't come close to throttling until it goes over 95C. For it to be throttling at 73°C I'm a bit suspicious of the VRM cooling.

On my accelero cooler unless I turn the fans up high enough, the air wont push through the GPU heatsink fins with enough pressure to hit the VRM heatsinks. After I set the fan speed to constant 80% (completely silent on this cooler) the VRMs kept cool enough.

Try turning your GPU fans up to a constant 100% speed and see if it throttles.
post #7 of 11
its not a 290, its basically a 7970 GE.

it throttles on power, not tempreature.
Edited by The Mac - 3/12/14 at 10:56am
post #8 of 11
So besicly u guy would recommended it or not?
post #9 of 11
furmark?

absolutely not.
post #10 of 11
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i feel like a bad boys quote applies here 'You know, I said all that, Mike, and all you heard was "titties."'
with respect to furmark...
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