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780 Ti worth it over 780?

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I'm debating between these two cards:
http://amzn.com/B00EM2JQ8E (EVGA GTX 780 FTW)
http://amzn.com/B00GMTGJIU (EVGA GTX 780 Ti Superclocked w/ACX cooler)

For the record, I have a 7970, but I'm hoping to sell it for about $400 on eBay while virtual currency mining is still a hot topic. Normally I would keep the 7970 for another while but selling it now seems a good idea. I'd plan on keeping the 780/780 Ti for a few years at least, per my usual pattern. I'm not an enthusiast so I don't upgrade very often (think 2-3 years at least for a CPU or GPU). If you want to know, I'm using an i7-4770K and my monitor is 1920x1080, 60 Hz.

I can afford either card, but the question is whether there is value in the 780 Ti. I know the 780 Ti is a better card, but it doesn't seem $180 worth of "better" than the 780, and then I've only looked at benchmarks comparing a regular 780 to the 780 Ti, not EVGA's 780 FTW to a 780 Ti, so I don't know how much smaller the gap is, but I already find it rather small between a stock 780 and a stock 780 Ti.
To me, looking strictly at benchmarks, it doesn't look like the 780 Ti is worth the extra $180, but I've used AMD cards since I had a Radeon 9700 Pro so I may be missing something. Even when considering longevity vs. value, I'm not sure the 780 Ti is a sound idea. I wouldn't think twice about it if the price difference was smaller, though.
post #2 of 60
Get a 780 classy and you should be fine. The ti isn't worth the price difference IMO.
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Originally Posted by theturbofd View Post

Get a 780 classy and you should be fine. The ti isn't worth the price difference IMO.

When you put it like that, that seems a reasonable middle ground. I did consider the Classified but just didn't see much value in its features over the 780 FTW, even for the measly $20 difference, but perhaps that's short-sighted of me in light of my considering a 780 Ti? tongue.gif
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Get a 780 classy if you can just for gaming. Much better deal than a 780ti, for gaming it's just a few fps difference at most.
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the classified is a much better card than the FTW, well worth the extra $20 if you ask me. If i can find another good deal on one, i plan on getting another.

To answer your question though, no, the ti isnt really worth the extra cash.
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Whether it's worth it is up to the buyer.

Looking at it solely from a $$$ perspective, no. An extra $150 for an extra 15% performance.

In my case, I stepped up a 780 Classy for a 780 Ti reference for just the shipping charge thanks to EVGA.

The Ti puts out the same fps at 1200 MHz that the 780 Classy does at 1350 mhz. So to me, it was worth it.
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Get a 780 classy if you can just for gaming. Much better deal than a 780ti, for gaming it's just a few fps difference at most.

Yes, I should have said it is exclusively for gaming.
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the classified is a much better card than the FTW, well worth the extra $20 if you ask me. If i can find another good deal on one, i plan on getting another.

To answer your question though, no, the ti isnt really worth the extra cash.

Would you care to explain why the Classified is a much better card? I've read about it and such so I feel like I have a pretty good grasp already, but if you wouldn't mind explaining it in your own words, I'd appreciate it tongue.gif

Thanks for the answers so far!
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The classified has always been EVGAs best card. Most of the 780s seem to have fairly close overclocking results. Where the classified stands out is with adjustable voltage control, better power delivery and a little bit bigger cooler. Now the cooler doesnt really matter if you are going to keep it on air, and really neither does the voltage control, so i really guess it depends on what you plan on doing with it. If you plan on keeping it on air, then maybe a FTW or even a SC would work just fine, but if you are really looking to push your card and get the most out of it, the classified is the way to go.

Also, I havent looked much in to memory overclocking on the other cards, but the classified with the samsung ram gets great overclocks. I run mine at stock voltage, +125 on the core and +250 memory for all the games i play and have yet to have an issue. I havent tried any farther, but i imagine it wouldnt have an issue pushing more.
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i've heard evga coolers aren't as good as some of the other coolers. why go for evga instead of a twin frozr or something? just curious really
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Originally Posted by navynuke499 View Post

The classified has always been EVGAs best card. Most of the 780s seem to have fairly close overclocking results. Where the classified stands out is with adjustable voltage control, better power delivery and a little bit bigger cooler. Now the cooler doesnt really matter if you are going to keep it on air, and really neither does the voltage control, so i really guess it depends on what you plan on doing with it. If you plan on keeping it on air, then maybe a FTW or even a SC would work just fine, but if you are really looking to push your card and get the most out of it, the classified is the way to go.

Also, I havent looked much in to memory overclocking on the other cards, but the classified with the samsung ram gets great overclocks. I run mine at stock voltage, +125 on the core and +250 memory for all the games i play and have yet to have an issue. I havent tried any farther, but i imagine it wouldnt have an issue pushing more.

Gotcha. Frankly I've never had much luck with GPU overclocking and certainly I will never change the stock cooler as I'm not interested in water cooling (beyond my Corsair H100). I always try it with a new card and end up having to revert to the card's stock clocks because I'm getting artifacts or some kind of instability, and when everything is stable, I don't benchmark anyway so I don't tend to notice a difference. Between my job and my personal life, I just want to sit down at the computer and relax, and I've never considered benchmarking or stability testing a fun time, so the less time I spend doing that, the happier I am tongue.gif
So yes, I overclock, no, I'm not obsessed with it. That being said, I would certainly welcome a card that overclocks well, simply to get more performance for my money smile.gif
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