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TRIM is not automatic so you will be required to use a command called fstrim and you need to know how to use it. See the Essentials Thread which has a link to a thread covering how to do that along with a few other tweaks to maximize life and performance of an SSD.

What does discard do on EXT4 volumes then...?
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What does discard do on EXT4 volumes then...?

Apparently it ruins things by causing to many TRIMs and issuing them to often slowing down the OS and wearing out the drive. That was from several articles back in 2012/2013 and since then I haven't seen anything come out stating it has been fixed.
     
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Apparently it ruins things by causing to many TRIMs and issuing them to often slowing down the OS and wearing out the drive. That was from several articles back in 2012/2013 and since then I haven't seen anything come out stating it has been fixed.

Eeek. Got links?
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Eeek. Got links?

It'll take me a few minutes to dig them up but a basic search of "fstrim vs discard" should show several kernel maintainers recommending against discard IIRC.
     
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It'll take me a few minutes to dig them up but a basic search of "fstrim vs discard" should show several kernel maintainers recommending against discard IIRC.

I see. Issuing TRIM after every single delete instead of batching them up. Ouch.
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I see. Issuing TRIM after every single delete instead of batching them up. Ouch.

Yup. I ran my SSD with discard for about 6months so I'm not happy with how hard it was to find the info. Hence why I only remembered the phrase that actually digs it up as searching "SSD+Linux" usually leads to a recommendation of discard. Selfish plug but my updated How-To contains all this but was never included in the Essential's Thread (neither was my still slightly flawed PulseAudio guide) as I think Transhour has retired and they never assigned a new mod here.
     
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Yup. I ran my SSD with discard for about 6months so I'm not happy with how hard it was to find the info. Hence why I only remembered the phrase that actually digs it up as searching "SSD+Linux" usually leads to a recommendation of discard. Selfish plug but my updated How-To contains all this but was never included in the Essential's Thread (neither was my still slightly flawed PulseAudio guide) as I think Transhour has retired and they never assigned a new mod here.

I'll just stick fstrim on a cron then. smile.gif

P.S I'm heading over to your Pulse guide. Its responsible for draining my battery life mad.gif
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I see. Issuing TRIM after every single delete instead of batching them up. Ouch.

Yup. I ran my SSD with discard for about 6months so I'm not happy with how hard it was to find the info. Hence why I only remembered the phrase that actually digs it up as searching "SSD+Linux" usually leads to a recommendation of discard. Selfish plug but my updated How-To contains all this but was never included in the Essential's Thread (neither was my still slightly flawed PulseAudio guide) as I think Transhour has retired and they never assigned a new editor here.

ftfy and I can think of a few that'd be perfect for the job! tonguesmiley.gif

on topic though: I've been running my desktop with discard for ~6 months, and no issues so far. thumb.gif

though I think I shall look into fstrim as well!
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post #19 of 38
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ftfy and I can think of a few that'd be perfect for the job! tonguesmiley.gif

on topic though: I've been running my desktop with discard for ~6 months, and no issues so far. thumb.gif

though I think I shall look into fstrim as well!

Actually that's still not on topic. LOL.
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ftfy and I can think of a few that'd be perfect for the job! tonguesmiley.gif

on topic though: I've been running my desktop with discard for ~6 months, and no issues so far. thumb.gif

Honestly, I feel like TRIM may not even actually work in Linux with all the stuff I've read. It seems the idiots at all these companies couldn't care less about us Linux users. I mean I read a review on newegg when the Samsung EVOs came out in which the Samsung Rep replied that their drives don't support AMD CPUs and Linux. YES, I actually have a screen shot of that. The great irony is that Samsung founds projects like E17/18 and their own Linux variant called Tizen. If it wasn't for Intel's company motto of "Monopolize all markets" I bet they'd even be as hapless with Linux as the majority of companies are. Its just disgusting sometimes. /rant redface.gif
     
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