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exactly, i dont get people's obsession of needing to max detail when the resolution is more then compensates for it. the 780m is good enough for its native resolution at medium

Totally agree myself. This "all-ultra-or-nothing" is stupid.
But so is 1800p on 14" laptops that claim to be "gaming" laptops. Call it "starbucks show-off", and I'm all in (i.e. I would salute for honesty).
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this laptop would be closer to perfect if it had thunderbolt port though. would be able to run an external GPU to feed surround screens or 4k or native LCD for those who demands more.

I will call you on that:

1st it is slower than a native card.
2nd it is extremely cumbersome, needing a big external encluser + a big external PSU + tons of cables running around. Meh. By default not an elegant solution, more like sloppy patch-work. and beats the concept of having a portable gaming laptop that is the initial premise of the Blade.
3rd it is a pretty expensive solution! The enclosure itself might cost as much as a decent laptop, then we add the GPU + external monitor, and the whole setup completely misses the point...just build a decent mITX box and keep it home with your monitor, wont' be that much bigger, will be faster.
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i wish it could fold the keyboard back and use it like a tablet like the yoga though

With the above logic and "money-not-an-issue" thinking, just wish for a Yoga + thunderbolt, or pretty much any decent $500 APU laptop + thunderbolt.
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Totally agree myself. This "all-ultra-or-nothing" is stupid.
But so is 1800p on 14" laptops that claim to be "gaming" laptops. Call it "starbucks show-off", and I'm all in (i.e. I would salute for honesty).
I will call you on that:

1st it is slower than a native card.
2nd it is extremely cumbersome, needing a big external encluser + a big external PSU + tons of cables running around. Meh. By default not an elegant solution, more like sloppy patch-work. and beats the concept of having a portable gaming laptop that is the initial premise of the Blade.
3rd it is a pretty expensive solution! The enclosure itself might cost as much as a decent laptop, then we add the GPU + external monitor, and the whole setup completely misses the point...just build a decent mITX box and keep it home with your monitor, wont' be that much bigger, will be faster.
With the above logic and "money-not-an-issue" thinking, just wish for a Yoga + thunderbolt, or pretty much any decent $500 APU laptop + thunderbolt.

1: slower? nope first revision thunderbolt offers PCIe4x which is enough for high end cards to not bottleneck , second revision thunderbolt doubles that bandwidth so it wont have any issues feeding that titan or 780ti

2: cumbersome? maybe but doesnt have to be, plenty of elegant GPU enclosures with 200-300w pico PSUs for the job. which also makes sense as part of their project christine modular PC theme. i will however concede to you that it is not as portable or usable on the go but given the specs of the laptop it can be considered a desktop replacement and dockable on a desk

3: expensive? it is what you make it out to be. DIY job can be cheap as loose change. buy one from a mac accessories store then you will be paying a massive premium and excluding GPU too.
external monitors, its a gaming desktop replacement laptop with a 14" screen you will want an external monitor that is easier to the eyes.

itx setup = another rig and its big in comparison. i'm already annoyed by how big and cumbersome ITX setups are when it comes to portability

yoga + thunderbolt or APU + thunderbolt means it doesnt have graphical performance when on the go and APU lacks "balls" in general and it would not have thunderbolt option because that is an intel technology

so yes i want a gaming laptop that i can boost in performance when at a desk at home yet easy to carry when i want to play something on the train or at the office or at the LAN

ether way each to their own and its an optional add on that doesnt even need to be officially supported, i want my external GPU laptop

i dont totally agree with starbucks showoff laptops claiming to be gaming though, its a gaming laptop if its going to be used to play games regardless of performance. i run an alienware m11x r3, and it is a gaming laptop despite its low tier GPU (540m) it will run all the games at its native resolution even if it means low/med. larger laptops with the same GPU would perform the same so it really comes down to where you draw that line
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The sheer notion that people are trying to convince themselves that playing games downres'd to 900p on a brand new gaming laptop...

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The sheer notion that people are trying to convince themselves that playing games downres'd to 900p on a brand new gaming laptop...

I don't even tongue.gif

780m will handle native @ med without AA, no down res anyway

besides its not like you lose anything at down res, games work on aspect ratio and not pixels. 16:9 4k will offer no more visible graphics then 1080p. difference in detail is the difference in PPI which is pretty much higher PPI vs AA where both does the same job

your call on 900p with AA or this without AA both offers similar detail and without AA would most likely be less taxing on the GPU for post processing trying to smooth out the non existent pixels

you really dont need to run everything on ultra and actual resolution dont really matter
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People so obsessed with Resolution. Its a 14" screen 720p is enough, 1080p is great. Remember most of us game on 1080p 24" monitors all day. Just makes it harder to run your games.

Also if i remember correctly Scaling is horrible in Windows so how will you ever read anything @ that rez on a 14" screen?
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The sheer notion that people are trying to convince themselves that playing games downres'd to 900p on a brand new gaming laptop...

I don't even tongue.gif

No one is trying to convince themselves, you people all simply miss the point that you do not have to do that. You can play games at the native res, you just will not be able to max them. They played BF4 and Metro LL on the native res in the medium range. For the size and portability of that thing it is amazing. For extremely demanding games or if I want to turn up the settings I have the option to run at 900p and due to the 1:4 mapping it won't look weird.

You people just assume that since its labeled as a gaming laptop and it can't max everything it is a failure, I just don't get it. The only other real option in this small form factor in my opinion is the GS60, but it does not look nearly as nice and it has an 860 not an 870. Also why does everyone keep saying 780m?
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People so obsessed with Resolution. Its a 14" screen 720p is enough, 1080p is great. Remember most of us game on 1080p 24" monitors all day. Just makes it harder to run your games.

Also if i remember correctly Scaling is horrible in Windows so how will you ever read anything @ that rez on a 14" screen?

a small statement with a lot of truth. 1080p on a 14" is at the point of being perfect with a foot in the 'too small' camp. A lot of these resolutions are just willy waving and require compromises that you shouldn't have to deal with in a very expensive laptop or desktop. Games that run 1800p on a laptop today on medium, tomorrow can only run them on low.

1080p is also perfectly decent and crisp at 15" , why wouldn't it be? i don't see too many people complaining about the sharpness of 23-24" 1080p monitors and unless im mistaken from all of the rig and room shots i have seen over the years the eye to monitor distance isn't that much greater than what your typical 17" laptop user experiences.. so yes more is nice but lets get laptops onto 1440p on 15-17" screens and have done with the i can see pixels argument anything higher is pretty much a waste at the typical eye distance to small monitor ratio.
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a small statement with a lot of truth. 1080p on a 14" is at the point of being perfect with a foot in the 'too small' camp. A lot of these resolutions are just willy waving and require compromises that you shouldn't have to deal with in a very expensive laptop or desktop. Games that run 1800p on a laptop today on medium, tomorrow can only run them on low.

1080p is also perfectly decent and crisp at 15" , why wouldn't it be? i don't see too many people complaining about the sharpness of 23-24" 1080p monitors and unless im mistaken from all of the rig and room shots i have seen over the years the eye to monitor distance isn't that much greater than what your typical 17" laptop user experiences.. so yes more is nice but lets get laptops onto 1440p on 15-17" screens and have done with the i can see pixels argument anything higher is pretty much a waste at the typical eye distance to small monitor ratio.

Oh I agree, The 1800p on this thing is not needed at all. I just have issues with the people saying its a fail product or enjoy the slide show as they never bothered to do any research on how it will perform. I'm leaning towards this but the GS Ghost does seem a bit more practical with a 1080p screen although its a 15.6".
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a small statement with a lot of truth. 1080p on a 14" is at the point of being perfect with a foot in the 'too small' camp. A lot of these resolutions are just willy waving and require compromises that you shouldn't have to deal with in a very expensive laptop or desktop. Games that run 1800p on a laptop today on medium, tomorrow can only run them on low.

1080p is also perfectly decent and crisp at 15" , why wouldn't it be? i don't see too many people complaining about the sharpness of 23-24" 1080p monitors and unless im mistaken from all of the rig and room shots i have seen over the years the eye to monitor distance isn't that much greater than what your typical 17" laptop user experiences.. so yes more is nice but lets get laptops onto 1440p on 15-17" screens and have done with the i can see pixels argument anything higher is pretty much a waste at the typical eye distance to small monitor ratio.

people get bought by apple's marketing crap and their so called retina displays

ether way 3k without AA vs 900p with AA, i'd take 3k anyday. real resolution beats fake interpolation. besides not running AA (there is no need to at that PPI) is alot easier on the GPU which makes the res bump totally justifiable.

like above 1080p @ 14" is already borderline too small to be comfortable with and certainly not enjoyable to stare at such a tiny screen over long periods
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If razer offered a 1080p screen on this thing, and a HDD @ like 200 cheaper I would have pre ordered even if I did not get my new job as for me it would have been the perfect mobile computer.
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