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Yea that was what I was going to suggest. The next best mATX is Z87MX-D3H. The one you linked should be fine for maybe up to 4.5GHz overclocks. MX one should handle pretty much anything but LN2 stuff, but it's also $20 more.

Good ATX boards are cheaper.
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Well thanks for your help. I won't be buying these parts for a while. So im guessing the prices will be different especially for the 4670K. We'll see what the prices will be

And you said that the MSI board should be ok but you wouldn't buy it. But for what reasons?? Would you suggest any other h87 board (or just that specific MSI one you don't like)?? In case I have to go with a h87 board and 4670
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Like I said the VRM on that MSI board is barely designed to drive the CPU at stock speeds. It can overheat even then. I wouldn't want my motherboard to blow up (or constantly throttle down) during 24/7 loads especially on hot days.
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Like I said the VRM on that MSI board is barely designed to drive the CPU at stock speeds. It can overheat even then. I wouldn't want my motherboard to blow up (or constantly throttle down) during 24/7 loads especially on hot days.

is the VRM a MSI related issue or chipset related issue?

Would this asus be better?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131995

I know the price is reaching to z87 territory.

and is H87 better than B85??
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You probably don't know what VRM is. VRM is voltage regulator module. It differs from board to board, and on cheap board it's one of the things that gets nerfed to keep cost down. That particular MSI board is bad. MSI has a lot of boards with good VRM like G45, GD65 boards and etc.

Yea Asus is a bit better, but Gigabyte also has same VRM setup + heatsink for the same price...

H87 has more SATA 6 Gbps ports than B chipset.
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You probably don't know what VRM is. VRM is voltage regulator module. It differs from board to board, and on cheap board it's one of the things that gets nerfed to keep cost down. That particular MSI board is bad. MSI has a lot of boards with good VRM like G45, GD65 boards and etc.

Yea Asus is a bit better, but Gigabyte also has same VRM setup + heatsink for the same price...

H87 has more SATA 6 Gbps ports than B chipset.

Yeah I didnt know what it was. I did google it though. But how do you know which board has good vrm and which board has bad vrm
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post #17 of 25
I know what is used on most popular boards. Then it's kind of guessing and searching. Like I said GB boards are good. Asus mostly good. ASRock LOVES to use bad components on cheaper boards, so extra caution on choosing components. MSI uses good components per phase, but has low phase count.
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post #19 of 25
E4 uses D-pak mosfets iirc. Pro4 is z87m-d3h without heatsink. For low budget mATX,Gigabyte is the only good choice. Z87MX-D3H is better than E4 and probably the only board you'll ever need.
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E4 uses D-pak mosfets iirc. Pro4 is z87m-d3h without heatsink. For low budget mATX,Gigabyte is the only good choice. Z87MX-D3H is better than E4 and probably the only board you'll ever need.


hmm I guess I will go with the Z87MX-D3H.
z87m-d3h doesnt have favorable reviews haha.
Z87MX-D3H is better than the E4 in terms or material and quality??
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