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post #11 of 18
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Wat do you do with the pc?do you use any professional application like the ones used for video editing,image editing,3d rendering,etc?
What games do you play?what do you want from the pc?(fast storage,high graphical settings,overclock,etc)
Like I said before, video editing, a little bit of 3D modeling/animation and graphic design, but mostly gaming.
post #12 of 18
What about 2x r9 290 at 500usd each and an i7 4820k with a p9x79?
  
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What about 2x r9 290 at 500usd each and an i7 4820k with a p9x79?
I used to use ATI cards back in the day, but stopped because of the driver issues they used to have. The straw that broke the camel's back was the ATI only water bug during the Pirates of the Burning Sea beta. I haven't owned an ATI since then so I have no idea about the current situation. Do they work as well as Nvidia cards now?

One of the reasons I wanted the motherboard I picked was that I was having a hard time finding water blocks for some of the ones I looked at, so I decided to solve the problem by getting one with a block built-in already. Didn't hurt that it matched my red color scheme either. The only full coverage block (Heatkiller) I could find for the board you suggested has some pretty bad user reviews. I'll do some more looking around and think about it.
Edited by Pixelmancer - 3/14/14 at 10:34pm
post #14 of 18
You're spending too much on memory and an SSD while obtaining parts that aren't that spectacular for the money spent.

Go with this memory kit instead: G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 2400

and Go with this SSD instead: Crucial M500 480GB

Faster memory is beneficial, and it costs about the same or less than any 1600MHz memory kit. The SSD is the best price to performance SSD on the market, you wont notice a difference in speeds.
post #15 of 18
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I decided to get a Obsidian 250D case instead, but my plan is otherwise pretty much the same except for the motherboard of course. I'm getting a ASRock Z87E-ITX since it's the only motherboard I've found that doesn't cause problems with 240mm x 30mm radiators. The only 25mm thick radiator I could find was pretty craptastic. My case and red sleeved cables are supposed to get here tomorrow. Next month I'm getting the PSU and a set of 5 BGears B-Blasters fans that I plan to paint red. I'll post pics of the painting project. I'm planning to mod a second window into my case where the vent for the GPU is.



The vertical GPU next to a window is the perfect opportunity to show off an acrylic water block. They're usually pointless since you can't see them anyway. It was actually one of the selling points of the case for me and it's a good first case modding project.
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You're spending too much on memory and an SSD while obtaining parts that aren't that spectacular for the money spent.

Go with this memory kit instead: G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 2400

and Go with this SSD instead: Crucial M500 480GB

Faster memory is beneficial, and it costs about the same or less than any 1600MHz memory kit. The SSD is the best price to performance SSD on the market, you wont notice a difference in speeds.
You're right about the RAM and I picked out a new kit. Thanks. I've built a few systems, but this is my first time getting into liquid cooling and overclocking so I just automatically looked for what my motherboard supported stock out of habit. doh.gif On the SSD though I'm sticking with my original choice. Yes it costs almost twice as much, but the MTBF is almost twice as much too, and it's a bit faster. I'd have to buy two of the M500's over the Neutron GTX's lifespan and it would negate the price advantage. You get what you pay for.
Edited by Pixelmancer - 4/8/14 at 6:54am
post #16 of 18
If I were planning to put a pair of 780Ti's under water I would absolutely go ahead and buy a ~1200W PSU. In fact, I would probably just snag the 1.3KW EVGA G2. A $200 PSU is a drip in a bucket compared to $1500 worth of GPUs and $500+ worth of radiators/blocks/pumps etc. GTX780Tis are up to 500W cards when overclocked on custom BIOS. An extra $100 towards the PSU to have the option open to do that overclock later is nada nothin in a build like that. Buying a 750W PSU is basically making the decision to never OC your GPUs, which makes the water loop pretty pointless.

I get so sick of this PSU minimizing crap on OCN. Is it ever going to stop? Thousands of dollars worth of hardware and everyone wants to see if they can save like 5% of the build cost on a smaller PSU. People come here for advise about monster fire breathing powerhouse rigs and seems like all they get is advise about how to make the machine more mundane.


The 250D is obviously a totally different direction, as that's an ITX case. No dual GPU options there, and I'm not sure about fitting a custom water loop in there. It's sort of designed around AIO-CLC's from my understanding. If you're changing the direction of the build that's cool. We can probably help with some ideas.
     
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-8350 990X EVO R2.0 Sparkle GTX460 768MB ballistix tactical 2 x 8GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Toshiiba THNSNH 256GB Enterprise RE3 1TB Asus BD combo drive Artic A30 
OSMonitorMonitorMonitor
Manjaro Linux Samsung 21.5" LCD E2009WFP E2009WFP 
PowerCase
Seasonic G 550W Modular Fractal Design Core 3500 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-6300, 4.7 GHZ@1.43V GA-970A-UD3P GTX 460 768MB Mixed DIMMs. 2x4GB + 2x8GB @ 1600-8-8-8 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Toshiba THNSNH 19nm 256GB 1TB Spinpoint F3 WD RE3 1TB WD RE3 1TB 
Optical DriveCoolingOSOS
yes CM Seidon 120V SolydK OpenSuse 13.1 
OSOSMonitorMonitor
Linux Mint 9-32 bit // Linux Mint 17-64 bit  Manjaro Xfce Samsung 21.5" HannsG 21.5" sideways! 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Sticky ATNG Rosewill Green 630W NZXT Gamma Basic Microsoft corded 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
A10-6800k 4.8GHZ @ 1.375V, 1.2GHZ iGPU Gigabyte GA-F2A85XN-WIFI HD8670D Ripjaws 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Seagate ST1000DM003 Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Zalman CNPS5X Linux Mint 15 
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LG IPS224V-PN Logitec K360 FSP 400W Aurum S 80+ gold Prodigy 
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If you are sick of it then dont stay here
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post #18 of 18
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If I were planning to put a pair of 780Ti's under water I would absolutely go ahead and buy a ~1200W PSU. In fact, I would probably just snag the 1.3KW EVGA G2. A $200 PSU is a drip in a bucket compared to $1500 worth of GPUs and $500+ worth of radiators/blocks/pumps etc. GTX780Tis are up to 500W cards when overclocked on custom BIOS. An extra $100 towards the PSU to have the option open to do that overclock later is nada nothin in a build like that. Buying a 750W PSU is basically making the decision to never OC your GPUs, which makes the water loop pretty pointless.

I get so sick of this PSU minimizing crap on OCN. Is it ever going to stop? Thousands of dollars worth of hardware and everyone wants to see if they can save like 5% of the build cost on a smaller PSU. People come here for advise about monster fire breathing powerhouse rigs and seems like all they get is advise about how to make the machine more mundane.


The 250D is obviously a totally different direction, as that's an ITX case. No dual GPU options there, and I'm not sure about fitting a custom water loop in there. It's sort of designed around AIO-CLC's from my understanding. If you're changing the direction of the build that's cool. We can probably help with some ideas.
I don't want to waste money for no reason, but I'm not too worried about the cost either. I agree with you. If I wanted to be practical I wouldn't have had a $300 motherboard that doesn't do anything for performance in my parts list.

The only thing the 250D really changes is that I'm trading SLI for an opportunity to case mod. Otherwise I'm still planning to make basically the same computer less the second GPU. I don't have an infinite budget so I won't be gold plating my case and adding diamond power and reset buttons, but within reason money is no object. That you're not supposed to water cool a mini-ITX is exactly why I'm doing it. It's definitely doable. Corsair themselves posted a build log that did just that. That's where I got the idea. If I find it too restrictive later on I can always replace the case and motherboard. That's no big deal. I just thought the 250D was a cool case and wanted to do something with it. It doesn't change that overkill is still my modus operandi.
Edited by Pixelmancer - 4/9/14 at 2:48pm
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