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Well, unless you plan on overvolting the 760 to the maximum with a custom BIOS. If so, then I honestly don't know one way or the other if it would still be enough. I'm sure someone here on OCN knows though...
i dont know much about GPU ocing, only haswell ocing (been watching couple vids so i know what im doing before i pull the trigger on changing my whole set up lol)

so im not sure if overvolting the GPU is standard ?? but i dont plan on overkilling the GPU (unless im confident i know how to do it)
and with the haswell, i dont plan on changing the volts, only the multipler to as high as it can go.

so i guess the 550w is enough right?

also, I dont have two fans on the top yet atm on my set up, i meant that there are two fan slots on top of the case.

atm, (since my whole rig is on stock settings) im only using 1 front intake and 1 rear exhaust (stock fans) that came with the default case setting.

but just to keep it simple, i guess ill just use my 2 sp120l as 1 front intake and 1 rear exhaust, and use the 2 stock case fans as the side or top. (after doing some experimentation)
Edited by IMKR - 3/13/14 at 6:10pm
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BUT ITS SOOOOOOOOO FUNNNNNN

 

Meh. I disagree. :P Things like that aren't very fun for me, but of course that's me.

 

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i dont know much about GPU ocing, only haswell ocing (been watching couple vids so i know what im doing before i pull the trigger on changing my whole set up lol)

so im not sure if overvolting the GPU is standard ?? but i dont plan on overkilling the GPU (unless im confident i know how to do it)
and with the haswell, i dont plan on changing the volts, only the multipler to as high as it can go.

 

If you aren't going to increase the CPU's voltage for overclocking, then I wouldn't even bother overclocking. I'm serious. I mean, you're not going to be able to get very far past 4.1 to 4.2 GHz - if you even make it that far.

 

A part of normal overclocking is increasing the voltage. That's why you get a better motherboard. For your plans, you could probably get one of the cheaper or crappier Z87 boards and still get all of the overclocking that you're planning on.

 

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so i guess the 550w is enough right?

 

It's way more than enough for your overclocking plans. Way more.

 

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also, I dont have two fans on the top yet atm on my set up, i meant that there are two fan slots on top of the case.

atm, (since my whole rig is on stock settings) im only using 1 front intake and 1 rear exhaust (stock fans) that came with the default case setting.

but just to keep it simple, i guess ill just use my 2 sp120l as 1 front intake and 1 rear exhaust, and use the 2 stock case fans as the side or top. (after doing some experimentation)

 

If you absolutely can't resist doing something different with your fan configuration, then do 1 front intake, one rear exhaust, one side intake or exhaust (experiment), and one top exhaust or intake (experiment). For the side, start with intake. For the top, start with exhaust. I doubt that you'll notice much of a difference, if any, when flipping the fans around. Not with your simple setup anyway.

 

I have what I would consider to be some extremely crappy 1200 RPM case fans, and yet they are almost overkill for my setup. Almost. :) I haven't replaced them because I haven't seen a need for it yet.

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If you aren't going to increase the CPU's voltage for overclocking, then I wouldn't even bother overclocking. I'm serious. I mean, you're not going to be able to get very far past 4.1 to 4.2 GHz - if you even make it that far.



A part of normal overclocking is increasing the voltage. That's why you get a better motherboard. For your plans, you could probably get one of the cheaper or crappier Z87 boards and still get all of the overclocking that you're planning on..

dam, the couple videos i watched told me to not change voltages but just increase multiplier. (they said even if u change voltage, dont change it more than 0.1 of what it was at stock.

i guess i gotta do more research lol
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dam, the couple videos i watched told me to not change voltages but just increase multiplier. (they said even if u change voltage, dont change it more than 0.1 of what it was at stock.

i guess i gotta do more research lol

 

Really? May I see these videos? How high did they overclock?

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Really? May I see these videos? How high did they overclock?

hmmmm nvm, I rewatched some videos (from jayztwocents and linustechtips to name a few) and they only mentioned that increasing voltage increases heat output, meaning you need better cooling system
i just took that as "dont change voltage," guess i misunderstood them tongue.gif

but even then, from jay'ztwocents he got to 4.7 ghz on his (i think 3770k) cpu with only 1.27 votlage (increased by only 0.07 volts) and got to 4.8 with 1.29 V
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hmmmm nvm, I rewatched some videos (from jayztwocents and linustechtips to name a few) and they only mentioned that increasing voltage increases heat output, meaning you need better cooling system
i just took that as "dont change voltage," guess i misunderstood them tongue.gif

but even then, from jay'ztwocents he got to 4.7 ghz on his (i think 3770k) cpu with only 1.27 votlage (increased by only 0.07 volts) and got to 4.8 with 1.29 V

Bear in mind he is using a 3770k and you are using a 4670k.....
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hmmmm nvm, I rewatched some videos (from jayztwocents and linustechtips to name a few) and they only mentioned that increasing voltage increases heat output, meaning you need better cooling system
i just took that as "dont change voltage," guess i misunderstood them tongue.gif

but even then, from jay'ztwocents he got to 4.7 ghz on his (i think 3770k) cpu with only 1.27 votlage (increased by only 0.07 volts) and got to 4.8 with 1.29 V

 

You would need an aftermarket cooler for that.

 

Anyway, I wouldn't say that you misunderstood them per se. You were thinking that since you have stock cooling, you only need to pay attention to what will apply to you. I've done that before. Unfortunately, lol, it does present the possibility of remembering that the entire message of the video (or article) was what you took away from it!

 

Sometimes, we even add things to a video or an article. Don't let this happen to you. lol Do you know about that "CPU Current Capability" setting? Well, lol, somehow I thought that I saw 140% (the highest) being recommended by each of the guides and videos that I studied from. Almost a year later, I suddenly decided to review those guides and videos, and to my amusement, ALL of them recommended 100%, not 140. lol Facepalm. I have no idea where I got 140% from, but I have had it at 100% ever since and it's still stable. I don't know what difference 140% makes over 100% though, if anything.


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okay, so i got my PC up and running today, and installed all my drivers (finally got my OS installed after many months later, thx to my school taking forever on getting their negotiations done with microsoft)

i am atm using stock fans still, (just two that came with my corsair 200r)

however, my temps are really really low.

my CPU temps at idle is 30 'C min and 36 'C max
with my GPU temp at 28 "C min and 32 "C max
NOTE: (again, this is idle)

my room temp is ~~ 73 - 75 ' F

I watched a video saying that if you have your system temps to low, (compared to ambient temps) it isnt good, since condensation can occur inside the rig.

is my temps to low? and why is it so low?
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I watched a video saying that if you have your system temps to low, (compared to ambient temps) it isnt good, since condensation can occur inside the rig.

:')

This is only valid when there are temperatures significantly lower than room temp involved*. or maybe at very low room temperatures. I'm not entirely sure on details - it's not an issue with any type of air cooling, or water - i think the first time you'd run into it was if you were hanging a water radiator out of a window with a significant temperature difference inside vs out

*This isn't possible without some kind of below-ambient cooling like a water chiller. What video's are you watching? tongue.gif

As for psu, you're fine.

@1.4v on cpu and 1.212v on gpu, your gaming consumption will fall right where you want it to on a 450w unit. A 760 is about half of a 780, remember.

Your temps are not too low, my idles have been below 20 at times. How low they go depend on the idle state you go to (c6/c7 is basically 0 power usage) as well as if you have integrated graphics enabled or disabled, what cooling you have mounted and how good the mount/contact is - that stuff tells you how much hotter than case temperature your idle will be. Lowering your case temperature by 10 degrees will cut 10 degrees off your idle, etc.

Your room temp in F (always use C, don't randomly jump between C and F..) is ~23c, so it's a quite normal idle temp. Your case temperature is likely a few C over room, even at idle. At load without perfect airflow, it's likely to climb a bit more.


As for overclocking, yes, you have to change voltage. It's not a good value proposition to pay extra for "k" CPU and z87 board (like $100 more than what you paid for your board, no? iirc like $30 after rebate) and to not buy a cooler, otherwise performance gain is just too small. Increasing voltages is an integral part of overclocking.

I'd suggest you read the haswell overclocking guide on OCN, made by darkwizzie. Average OC is ~4.5ghz @1.3vcore
Edited by Cyro999 - 3/15/14 at 5:39am
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Nice temps! thumb.gif
You have nothing to worry about. Condensation requires temps below ambient. . and you cannot air cool your system below the ambient temperture. thumb.gif
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