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This is only valid when there are temperatures significantly lower than room temp involved*. or maybe at very low room temperatures. I'm not entirely sure on details - it's not an issue with any type of air cooling, or water - i think the first time you'd run into it was if you were hanging a water radiator out of a window with a significant temperature difference inside vs out

*This isn't possible without some kind of below-ambient cooling like a water chiller. What video's are you watching? tongue.gif

As for psu, you're fine.

@1.4v on cpu and 1.212v on gpu, your gaming consumption will fall right where you want it to on a 450w unit. A 760 is about half of a 780, remember.

Your temps are not too low, my idles have been below 20 at times. How low they go depend on the idle state you go to (c6/c7 is basically 0 power usage) as well as if you have integrated graphics enabled or disabled, what cooling you have mounted and how good the mount/contact is - that stuff tells you how much hotter than case temperature your idle will be. Lowering your case temperature by 10 degrees will cut 10 degrees off your idle, etc.

Your room temp in F (always use C, don't randomly jump between C and F..) is ~23c, so it's a quite normal idle temp. Your case temperature is likely a few C over room, even at idle. At load without perfect airflow, it's likely to climb a bit more.


As for overclocking, yes, you have to change voltage. It's not a good value proposition to pay extra for "k" CPU and z87 board (like $100 more than what you paid for your board, no? iirc like $30 after rebate) and to not buy a cooler, otherwise performance gain is just too small. Increasing voltages is an integral part of overclocking.

I'd suggest you read the haswell overclocking guide on OCN, made by darkwizzie. Average OC is ~4.5ghz @1.3vcore

I FOUND THE VIDEO FINALLY !! lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuP6I0mOb1s

at about the 2:40 mark

can u explain what he meant? since he jsut straight out said "condensation occurs if your temp is lower than ambient temp"
Exactly what he said. "Condensation occurs if your temperature is lower than ambient temperature."
As long as everything is room temperature or above there is no condensation. And the lowest temperature you can have without some sort of chiller / refrigeration is the room temperature.
Edited by doyll - 3/30/14 at 9:17am
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Argh. AGAIN, AGAIN, AGAIN: Condensation cannot occur with air cooling or even water cooling. Well, maybe with water cooling IF you find a way to cool your liquid down so much that it's WAY below your room temperature. AGAIN, consider what happens when you take a cold beverage outside on a hot and humid day. NOW... consider what happens with that same cold beverage on a cool and super dry day in Fall! On the hot and humid day, condensation occurs on the outside of your beverage's container. On a cool and crisp and dry day in Fall, nothing happens.

 

You have absolutely nothing to worry about.  Stop worrying. Stop watching videos. lol You're not using sub-zero cooling. You're not using water cooling and trying to cool the liquid down to very cold temperatures. No. You're just using air cooling. With air cooling, condensation is impossible. It's not even possible if you were to be blowing very cold air at your stuff. Why? Because you're blowing COLD air at WARM OBJECTS. If you were blowing HOT and HUMID air at COLD objects, then yes: condensation would occur. Do you see the difference?

 

Or, think about this: can you cause condensation with a box fan set on high and blowing hard at a warm object? No. So, how would you get condensation in your computer if all of your components are either warmer than the air temperature, or the SAME as the air temperature and you're cooling them WITH AIR? I mean, really think about this. Again, think about a box fan blowing super hard at a warm object. Does condensation occur in that scenario? No, because it's impossible. Not even if the object is SLIGHTLY COOLER than the air temperature. That object would have to be very cold (compared to the air temperature) and there would have to be enough moisture in the air to even have any hope of condensation. That's why on a hot and humid day, a cold beverage "sweats". That's condensation. Take a hot beverage or a room temperature beverage out there, and no condensation occurs. Same thing with your computer. Air cooling = no condensation possible.

 

Now, please stop worrying.

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Argh. AGAIN, AGAIN, AGAIN: Condensation cannot occur with air cooling or even water cooling. Well, maybe with water cooling IF you find a way to cool your liquid down so much that it's WAY below your room temperature. AGAIN, consider what happens when you take a cold beverage outside on a hot and humid day. NOW... consider what happens with that same cold beverage on a cool and super dry day in Fall! On the hot and humid day, condensation occurs on the outside of your beverage's container. On a cool and crisp and dry day in Fall, nothing happens.

You have absolutely nothing to worry about.  Stop worrying. Stop watching videos. lol You're not using sub-zero cooling. You're not using water cooling and trying to cool the liquid down to very cold temperatures. No. You're just using air cooling. With air cooling, condensation is impossible. It's not even possible if you were to be blowing very cold air at your stuff. Why? Because you're blowing COLD air at WARM OBJECTS. If you were blowing HOT and HUMID air at COLD objects, then yes: condensation would occur. Do you see the difference?

Or, think about this: can you cause condensation with a box fan set on high and blowing hard at a warm object? No. So, how would you get condensation in your computer if all of your components are either warmer than the air temperature, or the SAME as the air temperature and you're cooling them WITH AIR? I mean, really think about this. Again, think about a box fan blowing super hard at a warm object. Does condensation occur in that scenario? No, because it's impossible. Not even if the object is SLIGHTLY COOLER than the air temperature. That object would have to be very cold (compared to the air temperature) and there would have to be enough moisture in the air to even have any hope of condensation. That's why on a hot and humid day, a cold beverage "sweats". That's condensation. Take a hot beverage or a room temperature beverage out there, and no condensation occurs. Same thing with your computer. Air cooling = no condensation possible.

Now, please stop worrying.

yeah i know, but some poeple were wondering what video i got that info from, and i just happened to find it now lol
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yeah i know, but some poeple were wondering what video i got that info from, and i just happened to find it now lol

 

Oh. You see, you still asked us to explain what he meant, and to me that meant, "I'm still worried". I apologize for that.

 

Linus shouldn't have said that. At all. Why? Because he didn't explain it, nor did he say things like, "but you don't have to worry about that with air cooling. You don't have to worry about it with water cooling either unless you are chilling the liquid JUST above its freezing point. The only kind of cooling you have to worry about is sub-zero cooling, such as Liquid Nitrogen (LN2), Dry Ice (DICE), Phase Change, etc".

 

He's an expert, but sometimes he just.... I don't know.

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I'm surprised by that too, it's an information video. The target audience won't know that stuff
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