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post #11 of 18
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Thanks guys!.

I will do backups and try remove the bad hdd and PATA drives.

The part about bf4 was me saying that about every time I use one hdd that is not boot, with big files (moving to usb drive or writing on itself, wifi)
that it would (what I would assume) be like a little laptop trying to play bf4 on max settings.

I would love to but more ram in, but ram prices these days are double what I payed for my little 2x2gb kit (about $20) back in 2011

Edit:on newegg no deals or anything, brand new. (pretty sure no deals)
Edited by Higgins909 - 3/13/14 at 7:36pm
post #12 of 18
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Thanks guys!.

I will do backups and try remove the bad hdd and PATA drives.

The part about bf4 was me saying that about every time I use one hdd that is not boot, with big files (moving to usb drive or writing on itself, wifi)
that it would (what I would assume) be like a little laptop trying to play bf4 on max settings.

I would love to but more ram in, but ram prices these days are double what I payed for my little 2x2gb kit (about $20) back in 2011

 

Well yeah, it's DDR2. Less demand seems to drive the prices sky-high. To be honest, I doubt that it's a problem with a lack of memory.

 

Anyway, so you're basically just saying that the computer just becomes extremely slow, just about as slow as a low-end laptop would be in BF4 at the highest settings. So, now I understand that you're not playing BF4, but you're making a rather descriptive analogy.

 

What's the make and model of these hard drives that you're having problems with? I mean, the ones that slow the computer down so much that it's about as slow as a low-end laptop would be trying to play BF4 at the highest settings. :) Or perhaps better yet, are they just 5400 PATA drives?

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post #13 of 18
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its ddr3.

one is a xbox 360 slim 250gb hdd drive I:
And I think a samsung sprinpoint M8? 2.5" 500gb 8mb cache (i'll know for sure when I pull it out soon) drive H:
Crucial m4 128gb ssd C:

not sure on the speed of the 2.5" drive (I: H:) but most likely 5400rpm sata
post #14 of 18
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huh, here is another question, can I just pull the hdd after making a backup to another hdd?
and just have that backup till I one day get a new drive.
but this drive has games installed on it, and what if I wanted to do this with a drive with programs on it? (idk java firefox chrome etc etc because I did programs games and storage on drive I:)
what will happen to windows? wont it still think there are programs on that disk? that's not there, what about when going to uninstall programs, will they still be in list, and registry?

right now im going though the slow process of uninstalling each game I find on the drive H:
post #15 of 18
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huh, here is another question, can I just pull the hdd after making a backup to another hdd?
and just have that backup till I one day get a new drive.
but this drive has games installed on it, and what if I wanted to do this with a drive with programs on it? (idk java firefox chrome etc etc because I did programs games and storage on drive I:)
what will happen to windows? wont it still think there are programs on that disk? that's not there, what about when going to uninstall programs, will they still be in list, and registry?

right now im going though the slow process of uninstalling each game I find on the drive H:

Uninstalling anything that is actually installed on that drive is probably your best bet. thumb.gif
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huh, here is another question, can I just pull the hdd after making a backup to another hdd?
and just have that backup till I one day get a new drive.
but this drive has games installed on it, and what if I wanted to do this with a drive with programs on it? (idk java firefox chrome etc etc because I did programs games and storage on drive I:)
what will happen to windows? wont it still think there are programs on that disk? that's not there, what about when going to uninstall programs, will they still be in list, and registry?

right now im going though the slow process of uninstalling each game I find on the drive H:

 

Always first uninstall everything that's on any drive that you wish to take out of your system. Otherwise, pulling a drive out that has things installed on it can cause irritating problems.

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post #17 of 18
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Well, It's been quite a while since I've done this, and I don't know If I really see any improvement from removing the IDE drives, but removing the bad HDD gave me back my performance.
post #18 of 18
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Well, It's been quite a while since I've done this, and I don't know If I really see any improvement from removing the IDE drives, but removing the bad HDD gave me back my performance.

 

Of course. :)

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