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Why would you buy a professional level sound card, and two sound interfaces, meant for production, that equate to well over double a high end receiver, just for HT alone?

Spending a bit more on a video card makes sense. Spending over double/triple on audio does not. In the audio world there is such a thing as diminishing returns.

P.S. I don't own a car, so I wouldn't know. tongue.gif Not that a car is the same thing as audio...
How does spending more on a video card make sense? A Nvidia 610 GT can more than meet the needs of 1080p video so having a gaming card doesn't help with watching movies. However if some one wants to use a 7 series Nvidia card - more power to them. And a high end receiver ....in the end - its stil a receiver, some of us audio nuts prefer separates (preference again). Don't be shocked DVLux - there are a lot of us that do this, some of us even have programs like Dirac and Accorate in our systems.
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And 8000$ worth of audio production gear will power someone's Blu-Ray player?

I guess that makes sense.
Where'd you get the $8k price from? headscratch.gif
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How does spending more on a video card make sense? A Nvidia 610 GT can more than meet the needs of 1080p video so having a gaming card doesn't help with watching movies. However if some one wants to use a 7 series Nvidia card - more power to them. And a high end receiver ....in the end - its stil a receiver, some of us audio nuts prefer separates (preference again). Don't be shocked DVLux - there are a lot of us that do this, some of us even have programs like Dirac and Accorate in our systems.
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Where'd you get the $8k price from? headscratch.gif

That blog. You do realise the price of that Halo interface is 3k, right?
Edited by DVLux - 3/28/14 at 10:52am
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Why would you buy a professional level sound card, and two sound interfaces, meant for production, that equate to well over double a high end receiver, just for HT alone?

Spending a bit more on a video card makes sense. Spending over double/triple on audio does not. In the audio world there is such a thing as diminishing returns.

You're bringing this up on an enthusiast forum... a forum packed with people that don't know the meaning of overkill. I think you need to reconsider your position if you can justify spending money on a video card but not stereo equipment. To each their own.

Also diminishing returns applies to everything, but at least with audio equipment one could argue that in 5 years it'll still be high-end while a video card will be trash.
    
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You're bringing this up on an enthusiast forum... a forum packed with people that don't know the meaning of overkill. I think you need to reconsider your position if you can justify spending money on a video card but not stereo equipment. To each their own.

Also diminishing returns applies to everything, but at least with audio equipment one could argue that in 5 years it'll still be high-end while a video card will be trash.

headscratch.gif I can justify spending 350$ on a video card every five years. I can't justify spending 6k$ on audio interfaces, and then another 2k+$ on 7 speakers+a sub just to listen to music/blu-rays.

We weren't really talking about simple stereo.
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Why would you buy a professional level sound card, and two sound interfaces, meant for production, that equate to well over double a high end receiver, just for HT alone?

Spending a bit more on a video card makes sense. Spending over double/triple on audio does not. In the audio world there is such a thing as diminishing returns.

P.S. I don't own a car, so I wouldn't know. tongue.gif Not that a car is the same thing as audio...
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That blog. You do realise the price of that Halo interface is 3k, right?
Oh - that was made to compete with a $15K prepro - so it was cost no object - you can do it for much less than $8k and still come out better than a run of the mill Best Buy receiver. It's kind of funny - every one that has an HT receiver and then hears my system ask me - "Why doesn't mine sound like that? Yours sounds better than the local theater"! That's all subjective - however...yes I prefer my setup to the local theater.

You could put together a system that would run circles around a high-end receiver (high-end being about 3k) for the same money or less!

By the way - I've heard the Halo with Joseph Audio's Pulsar speakers - some of the best sound at Axpona 2012! They were using a Mac as the source. As were most of the venues. Everyone had a PC or Mac running JRiver or Ammare, or Pure Music. Most were using high dollar outboard DAC's or professional interfaces - but if you want to get your feet wet in multichannel - I think the Asus cards are an inexpensive place to start.
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You're bringing this up on an enthusiast forum... a forum packed with people that don't know the meaning of overkill. I think you need to reconsider your position if you can justify spending money on a video card but not stereo equipment. To each their own.

Also diminishing returns applies to everything, but at least with audio equipment one could argue that in 5 years it'll still be high-end while a video card will be trash.
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headscratch.gif I can justify spending 350$ on a video card every five years. I can't justify spending 6k$ on audio interfaces, and then another 2k+$ on 7 speakers+a sub just to listen to music/blu-rays.

We weren't really talking about simple stereo.

Again, to each their own.

Expensive is subjective. $350 on a video card is acceptable to you but for 99% of the population it's insanity. Likewise $8k on audio is overboard for you but obviously not for others.
    
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headscratch.gif I can justify spending 350$ on a video card every five years. I can't justify spending 6k$ on audio interfaces, and then another 2k+$ on 7 speakers+a sub just to listen to music/blu-rays.

We weren't really talking about simple stereo.
No, I was looking at the STX II's 7.1 RCA outs - because it wasnt offered on the STX only the PCI ST model. If I were doing just a 2 channel rig I'd opt for something like the Bifrost, or another 2 channel option. My thing is the multichannel implications.

P.S. I haven't changed video cards in years!!!!! Still running the same GT430 that I paid $59.00 for. I've found no need to upgrade the video card (it has the HDMI 1.4 spec but I don't need it since I don't watch 3D). One other thing - whatever you're passionate about - you will spend money on.
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Isn't this just a marketing exercise? The STX/ST was denied WHQL certification by Microsoft for Windows 8.1? They'll only have unsigned drivers. They were forced to update one of the IC's to work with UAA/protected audio and to me it doesn't look like they've done much more than just that, and popped in an opamp with a slightly higher theoretical SNR to quote some improvements.

I guess we'll have to wait and see if this is just an STX with a signed Windows 8.1 driver or something better.
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