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headscratch.gif I can justify spending 350$ on a video card every five years. I can't justify spending 6k$ on audio interfaces, and then another 2k+$ on 7 speakers+a sub just to listen to music/blu-rays.

We weren't really talking about simple stereo.

It is crazy how expensive audio can get, mind blowing to me really.

When I redid my living room around Christmas I was standing in front of audio equipment that cost from $200 to $20,000. At the end of the day, and after listening, I ended up with some Pioneer Andrew Jones for my home theater, a Yamaha receiver, and called it good.

The next step up in listening quality, where I could actually really hear a difference in the audio, was almost three times the cost. I just couldn't justify the cost to sound quality, we don't watch movies 24x7. Heck, one setup I listened to sounded miles better than the Andrew Jones, but they were ~$1300 PER speaker.

You audio guys are crazy!
    
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That's pretty much the point of diminishing returns, there's lots of ridiculously bad sounding stuff like Focal Scala Utopias that sell for tens of thousands, yet I wouldn't want anywhere near my living room. In some things price and quality might correlate up to five and more digits, but audio is not one of them.
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Everyone has their sound to price ratio. It's easy to put down high end sound if you aren't looking for it and it's easy to get spoiled if you are. Somewhere in the middle is the sweet spot for audio.
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post #124 of 231
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Everyone has their sound to price ratio. It's easy to put down high end sound if you aren't looking for it and it's easy to get spoiled if you are. Somewhere in the middle is the sweet spot for audio.
Partially true. There's actually stuff that costs a lot of money but is measurably a LOT worse than more sensibly priced gear. Subjective individual opinions aside, they are, in fact worse in the literal sense of the word, for a tenfold amount of money.
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You still need to do your research, sure.
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I'd say for now, give it a couple of months at least. Let's see how good the first drivers are. They are often problematic for sound cards.

Speaking of which, do you think that this card is a huge upgrade over the previous generation - the Essence STX 1? On paper, it looks like they swapped out a few components and that is it.

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There's still a lot of people with Z-5500's or better 5.1 or 7.1 surround sound systems who prefer that over a pair of headphones. My main issue with sound cards these days is the lack of 5.1 and 7.1 outputs. Now, if only the daughterboard didn't take up an extra slot....

Howe else am I going to run 3 way SLI mad.gif

Shouldn't it work out anyways.

PCI-E 1
Gap
PCI-E 2
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Daughter Board

Look very closely at the daughter board. It doesn't need to be plugged into anything - just the IDE cable.
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...Look very closely at the daughter board. It doesn't need to be plugged into anything - just the IDE cable.

The daughter board still needs to have a slot on the back of the computer to fasten into. In my case (pardon the pun), assuming I even needed more than 2.0, that would be a problem because the one PCI cover slot not associated with a PCI-e slot on my MOBO is already in use (I actually wish I had two more cover slots available plus a couple of PCI-e x1 sockets also available).
     
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7K for surround? rolleyes.gif

The max one should spend is like 2K and for stereo, above that you get 5-10% at best better for 5x the price.

My recommendation is JBL LSR 305, try to find something better for similar price, or even 2x more, i dare you thumb.gif

If you want better Adam A7x for ~ 1100$ above that its just wasting money, couple that with STX and you get relatively inexpensive mid end setup, witch is MINDBLOWING for the money,
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As someone who does professional audio (and music, since apparently now it must be differentiated) production, I have spent a fair amount of money over the years on equipment. Grado PS1000/GS1000/RS1, dozens of other headphones, Speakers that range from top of the line Sonus Faber's to the unparalleled in the price range Pioneer by Andrew Jones units to (according to the "super sound men" horrible) Cerwin Vega VE12's to one of my favorite casual listening sets a pair of RTR Model V Digital 200 vintage 1980 that I got for freein pperfect condition... I am currently using a Pioneer SC-79, and a Ti HD, as in-/outputs, McIntosh solid state amps, etc. I have yet to hear a single speaker wire that sounds better than the 12AWG OFC I get from Monoprice and sleeve w EMI/RFI resistant sleeve and connect with Monoprice banana plugs.
Ihave plenty of recordingside equip ment, and a lot of variations on the above mentioned.

I don't care about bragging or "equipment compensation", I only say this to give an indication of what I use day in and day out.


That said, I think "audiophiles" are comedy gold. Onthe production side, there's a reason for recording, editing, and mixing at 32bit depth and 96-192khz, because it makes it easier for us to identify and remove or correct errors. The best possible analogy I can give is that it's like having two separate computers, identical in every way, each having its own 3840x2160p 32" display. On one, it's running a game with say FXAA/SMAA + 4xMSAA. The other, same game but at 4x4 Super-sampling. I will argue that the difference between the two is imperceptible, provided you are a normal person and like to enjoy games rather than dissect the tiny visual flaws.

However, if you are using the computer for graphics design, suddenly the ability to scale and re-sample the image makes it easier toiimprove the quality for everyone.

The same thing goes for audio work. I don't know a single fellow person in pproduction who claims to hear the difference between 92 and 192khz, or that there's an audible benefit from 32 over 24 bit depth. Using frequency response analysis and so forth, however, the slight variations can be corrected VISUALLY and thanks to downsampling, without a ny loss in quality or even the ability to tell it was altered.

Regarding 124dB SNR...
It is pure, unadulterated marketing.

If you want to know how loud that is, I can give you an example...
I have a Noveske billet receiver short-barrelled AR chambered for 300BLK. 10.4" Barrel, 11.5" free-floating rail, Magpul CTR Stock, Tangodown battlegrip, Troy HK-type BUIS, Giesselle SFA trigger, Magpul PMAG II'S, Surefire G2ZX 500/25lum dual-mode weaponlight on a DD Offset mount, Troy mid-sized VFG, EOTech EXPS3 holographic sight and G33 3x magnifier both w Troy QRS mounts, and currently an AAC Blackout muzzle brake.
The 300BLK is designed as a 30cal AR round requiring only a new bbl, to fire from a short barrel better than anything else (my own 10-16" 556 AR's firing at 2485-2830fps don't have the accuracy of even a 9"bbl 300BLK), and which can be loaded with bullet weights ranging from 110gr to over 220gr for both supersonic and subsonic use, without the many cons of using a 556 SBR (plus the fact that subsonic 223 has about as much energy as a 22 long, while the 220gr 300BLK subs have more energy after 100yds of flight than a 44mag at the muzzle).
Currently I am using an AAC SDN762 suppressor, although a GemTech G300 (full titanium, both shroud and baffles) is on the way.

With a dBmeter a foot in front of, and a foot to the side of, the muzzle, I recorded the SPL of different rounds w and wo the can...
125gr OTM no can = 159dB
125gr OTM can = 137dB
220gr sub no can = 138dB
220gr sub can = 121dB


So, you are talking levels of sound pressure akin to firing a rifle. Keep that in mind.
   
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As someone who does professional audio (and music, since apparently now it must be differentiated) production, I have spent a fair amount of money over the years on equipment. Grado PS1000/GS1000/RS1, dozens of other headphones, Speakers that range from top of the line Sonus Faber's to the unparalleled in the price range Pioneer by Andrew Jones units to (according to the "super sound men" horrible) Cerwin Vega VE12's to one of my favorite casual listening sets a pair of RTR Model V Digital 200 vintage 1980 that I got for freein pperfect condition... I am currently using a Pioneer SC-79, and a Ti HD, as in-/outputs, McIntosh solid state amps, etc. I have yet to hear a single speaker wire that sounds better than the 12AWG OFC I get from Monoprice and sleeve w EMI/RFI resistant sleeve and connect with Monoprice banana plugs.
Ihave plenty of recordingside equip ment, and a lot of variations on the above mentioned.

I don't care about bragging or "equipment compensation", I only say this to give an indication of what I use day in and day out.


That said, I think "audiophiles" are comedy gold. Onthe production side, there's a reason for recording, editing, and mixing at 32bit depth and 96-192khz, because it makes it easier for us to identify and remove or correct errors. The best possible analogy I can give is that it's like having two separate computers, identical in every way, each having its own 3840x2160p 32" display. On one, it's running a game with say FXAA/SMAA + 4xMSAA. The other, same game but at 4x4 Super-sampling. I will argue that the difference between the two is imperceptible, provided you are a normal person and like to enjoy games rather than dissect the tiny visual flaws.

However, if you are using the computer for graphics design, suddenly the ability to scale and re-sample the image makes it easier toiimprove the quality for everyone.

The same thing goes for audio work. I don't know a single fellow person in pproduction who claims to hear the difference between 92 and 192khz, or that there's an audible benefit from 32 over 24 bit depth. Using frequency response analysis and so forth, however, the slight variations can be corrected VISUALLY and thanks to downsampling, without a ny loss in quality or even the ability to tell it was altered.

Regarding 124dB SNR...
It is pure, unadulterated marketing.

If you want to know how loud that is, I can give you an example...
I have a Noveske billet receiver short-barrelled AR chambered for 300BLK. 10.4" Barrel, 11.5" free-floating rail, Magpul CTR Stock, Tangodown battlegrip, Troy HK-type BUIS, Giesselle SFA trigger, Magpul PMAG II'S, Surefire G2ZX 500/25lum dual-mode weaponlight on a DD Offset mount, Troy mid-sized VFG, EOTech EXPS3 holographic sight and G33 3x magnifier both w Troy QRS mounts, and currently an AAC Blackout muzzle brake.
The 300BLK is designed as a 30cal AR round requiring only a new bbl, to fire from a short barrel better than anything else (my own 10-16" 556 AR's firing at 2485-2830fps don't have the accuracy of even a 9"bbl 300BLK), and which can be loaded with bullet weights ranging from 110gr to over 220gr for both supersonic and subsonic use, without the many cons of using a 556 SBR (plus the fact that subsonic 223 has about as much energy as a 22 long, while the 220gr 300BLK subs have more energy after 100yds of flight than a 44mag at the muzzle).
Currently I am using an AAC SDN762 suppressor, although a GemTech G300 (full titanium, both shroud and baffles) is on the way.

With a dBmeter a foot in front of, and a foot to the side of, the muzzle, I recorded the SPL of different rounds w and wo the can...
125gr OTM no can = 159dB
125gr OTM can = 137dB
220gr sub no can = 138dB
220gr sub can = 121dB


So, you are talking levels of sound pressure akin to firing a rifle. Keep that in mind.
That's confusing me, it's a signal to noise ratio not final SPL at the speaker? I'm not sure how the absolute SPL of a gun is relevant to a noise ratio? You can demonstrate and measure the ratio at far below 124dB SPL?
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