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Only Linux is pushing to go mainstream, and distro count is working against it. I thought this was common knowledge.

Wrong again. Ubuntu is pushing to go mainstream and it's Ubuntu that has the commercial software vendors on board.

Most of the rest of the distros either don't care about commercial software or are against it entirely. And some don't even want to be popular either (Arch seems to be doing it's damnedest to put off new comers).

What is common knowledge is just how little you know about Linux.
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Only Linux is pushing to go mainstream, and distro count is working against it. I thought this was common knowledge.

And as I pointed out, there's really only a few that are at the top even thinking of the possibility of going mainstream. Ubuntu, Fedora / RedHat and then Debian. Slack isn't going mainstream, Arch isn't going mainstream, Gentoo, Puppy, #!, or any other distribution or spin out there, are not going mainstream. So there is no need to for commercial software or companies to focus on those distributions, they will continue to be the enthusiasts distributions outside of the commercial or mainstream distributions.
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And as I pointed out, there's really only a few that are at the top even thinking of the possibility of going mainstream. Ubuntu, Fedora / RedHat and then Debian. Slack isn't going mainstream, Arch isn't going mainstream, Gentoo, Puppy, #!, or any other distribution or spin out there, are not going mainstream. So there is no need to for commercial software or companies to focus on those distributions, they will continue to be the enthusiasts distributions outside of the commercial or mainstream distributions.

Fedora and Debian are very much FOSS distros so they're not even interested in commercial software vendors.

It's only Redhat and Ubuntu that matter; and since Redhat isn't a desktop OS, that only leaves one distro worth targeting. It couldn't be simpler (unless your names CaptainLame - our resident Windows sysadmin)
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Okay I'll test Ubuntu instead of Mint, no reason to test both Debian and Ubuntu.

Why not?

Yes, Ubuntu is based on Debian. But Ubuntu is not Debian. And while Ubuntu is based on Debian it uses unstable and not Debian stable or testing. Ubuntu also uses a lot of their own repositories and do a lot of their own patching and updating outside that of Debian. Meaning it's going to inherently already be more up to date than Debian on quite a a bit of software.

You really don't seem to have taken notice to what I said, or didn't understand it.
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Fedora and Debian are very much FOSS distros so they're not even interested in commercial software vendors.

It's only Redhat and Ubuntu that matter; and since Redhat isn't a desktop OS, that only leaves one distro worth targeting. It couldn't be simpler (unless your names CaptainLame - our resident Windows sysadmin)

Yeah, I just threw them in there as they're really the only other big players that could even think about doing it. But you are right that they are much more focused on FOSS than anything proprietary. So yeah, that really just leaves us with Ubuntu that could and wants to go mainstream.
Edited by Shrak - 3/20/14 at 4:57pm
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Why not?
Probably because he couldn't work out how to install them laugher.gif
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Probably because he couldn't work out how to install them laugher.gif

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Fedora and Debian are very much FOSS distros so they're not even interested in commercial software vendors.

It's only Redhat and Ubuntu that matter; and since Redhat isn't a desktop OS, that only leaves one distro worth targeting. It couldn't be simpler (unless your names CaptainLame - our resident Windows sysadmin)

Excuse me but I am the resident Windows sysadmin thank you, that likes Linux.

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Excuse me but I am the resident Windows sysadmin thank you, that likes Linux.

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The Windows is a lie!
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Okay so what I have gathered from your ramblings, Ubuntu is the only desktop orientated mainstream distro with commercial support targeted at end users (who are the most common users of suspend and resume), i'll just test Ubuntu then....

PS. Linus himself refuses to use Debian because he doesn't want the headache of installing it. He prefers Ubuntu, and since suspend and resume is mostly a kernel feature, which is common across all distros, I think the latest release of Ubuntu is a good candidate.
Edited by CaptainBlame - 3/20/14 at 6:01pm
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Okay so what I have gathered from your ramblings, Ubuntu is the only desktop orientated mainstream distro with commercial support targeted at end users (who are the most common users of suspend and resume), i'll just test Ubuntu then....

PS. Linus himself refuses to use Debian because he doesn't want the headache of installing it. He prefers Ubuntu, and since suspend and resume is mostly a kernel feature, which is common across all distros, I think the latest release of Ubuntu is a good candidate.

Headache of installing Debian!?
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