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2GB V-RAM???

Poll Results: Still not enough? Keep your bias aside for a second :)

Poll expired: Mar 16, 2014  
  • 52% (28)
    Yes, it's enough
  • 28% (15)
    No, i believe it's still not enough
  • 18% (10)
    I'm still on the fence
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post #1 of 198
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I have seen a lot of misinformation about 2gb of V-ram not being enough for x3 1080p, 1440p, 1600p, and 4K resolution in video games, and i always tell people that their GPU's would run out of raw processing power before they run out of V-ram; however, some people are still stubborn and spreading misinformation.

So just to prove them wrong, and also show others that are on the fence, i was able to downsample my 21:9 2560x1080p 75Hz Dell monitor to 5120x2160 30Hz, which is equal to 11,059,200 Pixels. Other 16:9 or 16:10 4K monitors are mostly 8MP, so this is more demanding and should require more v-ram.

First things first, I would like to tell you guys that 4K resolution looks amazing even at 30Hz and downsampled. I can only imagine what it would look like if this was a native resolution. I was actually impressed at my 770 SLI 2GB rendering most games like Crysis 3, Metro LL, Bf4, NFSMW 2012, Sleeping Dogs e.t.c. above 30 FPS with No AA, and some with AA. Turning AA on in BF4 resulted in about 17 FPS avg which was unplayable; NOT due to LACK OF V-ram, but lack of processing power. I mean this resolution is massive redface.gif. You would probably need 780ti SLI to play most games with AA and maintain 60 FPS+

I wonder what or who started this whole "2GB is not enough" saying. I don't see any game i am unable to run, and if you want me to run a particular game for you. I'll be glad to do so (If i have that game) thumb.gif.

What do you guys think? Is 2gb V-ram still not enough? tongue.gif




I was recording with my X-peria z1 with one hand, and playing with a controller with the other hand, I just wanted to show how surprisingly "smooth" the gameplay was at 30Hz. I apologize in advance, there's only so much i can do with two hands biggrin.gif
Edited by Yungbenny911 - 4/19/14 at 10:48am
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Good thread. VRAM concerns are largely overblown because people mistakenly interpret VRAM allocation as some sort of VRAM requirement. It's just not that simple.

IMO 2GB is perfectly suited for GK104 cards.
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Should be an interesting thread.
   
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Should be an interesting thread.

Agreed.
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^^Exactly. I think it's something that needs to be discussed with actual proof from both parties (those that say 2gb is not enough, and those that say 2gb is enough). Memory allocation is not "proof" (some seem to think it is) tongue.gif...

According to some users, a 2gb video card is not good for anything higher than 1080p. I keep getting reminded that i would run out of V-ram on my 770's in "future games", and some people have said i am trying to justify my purchase lol tongue.gif. I'm just like.. "Justify what? I PLAY GAMES AT 4K" doh.gif
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^^Exactly. I think it's something that needs to be discussed with actual proof from both parties (those that say 2gb is not enough, and those that say 2gb is enough). Memory allocation is not "proof" (some seem to think it is) tongue.gif...

According to some users, a 2gb video card is not good for anything higher than 1080p. I keep getting reminded that i would run out of V-ram on my 770's in "future games", and some people have said i am trying to justify my purchase lol tongue.gif. I'm just like.. "Justify what? I PLAY GAMES AT 4K" doh.gif

Im having no issues playing at 5760 x 1080 on SLI 770s so, I will be interested to watch some of the information that gets presented. My ears and eyes are open and I hope to learn something.
   
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The Radeon HD 7750 with 1GB of VRAM supports 4K. I've seen plenty of people claim that "2GB of VRAM is barely enough for 1080p", these are the same people that believe a 2GB card is obviously twice as powerful as a 1GB card and all 2GB cards are pretty much equal in performance so "get the cheapest 2GB card you can buy" because anything is hype. rolleyes.gif
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settings and it all depends on what your doing,


I'd like to see your vram usage while ingame, because what your sorta explaining about your fps change when adding AA is the exact thing that happens when I go over vram
and you cannot tell me your 3770k @.4.8 can't handle the AA when my 8320@4.0 can. tongue.gif


IDK but I have occasional vram problems with bf4 on a 7870XT with 2gb, I've had to lower effects to high so I wouldn't get stutters when lots of explosions would happen.
this was at 1080p, 90fov, 100% res scale, everything maxed except effects on high and msaa x2 instead of x4.
I could of turned AA off but for me I can see the difference from 0x to 2x and it didn't even take 10fps away,

maybe SLI plays a factor, I've heard that you only get to use the vram amount of 1 card even in SLI but I've also heard the opposite that you get the same as both combined, I don't know but I've gotten both of these answers from here at one point or another reading. @.@
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Im having no issues playing at 5760 x 1080 on SLI 770s so, I will be interested to watch some of the information that gets presented. My ears and eyes are open and I hope to learn something.

My ears and eyes are also open to learn a lot. I personally would like to know if yes... 2gb of V-ram is not enough, and what proof they would provide.
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How are we to know how much actual Vram we are using if all the programs that tell us are using allocation?
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 6700K @4.8Ghz Gigabyte Z170X Gaming 7 Gigabyte 980 ti G1 Corsair DDR4 16GB @3000mhz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Crucial M4 256GB SSD Sony DVD/RW Zalman CNPS9900-MAX Windows 8.1 Pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell 27" S2716DG G-Sync 1440p Saitek Eclipse OCZ ZX 850W Storm Stryker 
Mouse
Logitech M510 
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