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under clocked 290s for this and underclocked 780s for the 790 probably.
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With that said, MSI R9 290s are going for $469 on the egg atm.
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post #43 of 85
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Originally Posted by Dyson Poindexter View Post

Wow, this gen's naming scheme can't get any more confusing

yea, not sure what the "X2" is there for. Just calling it a 295 would be a throwback to the other dual gpu 295, the GTX 295 of yesteryear.

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Originally Posted by bencher View Post

Before the mining craze a 7990 was $499. Are you forgetting that?

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Originally Posted by Kinaesthetic View Post

Yeah. Powercolor custom 7990s, not even reference, were the only ones hitting that low. Reason being? Because they had inventory that wasn't selling at higher price points, and decided to EOL their card, which the fire-sale lasted all but about a couple of weeks.

Reference 7990s didn't even come down in price until AMD actually lowered their MSRP.
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1 7990 for 499 do a search i coudn't find any other 7990 listed at that price at anytime so likely it was a price mistake or just discontined. And 29* dual gpus with a 120mm rad wont really work for the hardcore miners they dont buy cases that could fit the rads.

Reference 7990s went as low as $550 with rebates. I remember being super tempted to get one from either Amazon or Newegg, in which I really wish I went through with. Kinaerthetic is correct that only the non-reference Powercolor 7990 went as low as $500.

bencher is saying $600 in a matter of a year or two, not even this year. I honestly don't see why everyone is reacting so gallantly towards his posts. I too am waiting to get a dual-GPU card since mITX only supports one GPU and 1440p @ 120hz is really hard to drive. I doubt I can afford one until after I graduate school so given the time span of 1~2 years, I'm happy to wait for that.
    
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post #45 of 85
I'm also wondering if pre attached watercooling is a thing to come for more AMD cards even singles. Being that price is all over the place and not really a strict profit / loss concern if cards are wildly selling out, an engineer can be given his head to design a worthwhile Water cooling solution like shown above. redface.gif
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Hey I called it!
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post #47 of 85
I think this is going to be a very formidable card but unfortunately it will be ruined by a stupid price tag. At $650-$750 this thing would be incredible but at over $1000 it is no where near as impressive.
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Originally Posted by bencher View Post

Before the mining craze a 7990 was $499. Are you forgetting that?

wasn't that right after the crossfire "microstutter" / frametime fiasco?

Then again HD7950s were hitting $200-220 and HD7970s were sub $300.
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wasn't that right after the crossfire "microstutter" / frametime fiasco?

Then again HD7950s were hitting $200-220 and HD7970s were sub $300.

It was before the R9 series was about to release and the 7K were expected to go EOL. 7950s went down to $150-180 after rebates. Good times!
    
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post #50 of 85
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Reference 7990s went as low as $550 with rebates. I remember being super tempted to get one from either Amazon or Newegg, in which I really wish I went through with. Kinaerthetic is correct that only the non-reference Powercolor 7990 went as low as $500.

bencher is saying $600 in a matter of a year or two, not even this year. I honestly don't see why everyone is reacting so gallantly towards his posts. I too am waiting to get a dual-GPU card since mITX only supports one GPU and 1440p @ 120hz is really hard to drive. I doubt I can afford one until after I graduate school so given the time span of 1~2 years, I'm happy to wait for that.

 

Honestly, the main point I was trying to drive across with my post is that in the end, prices aren't going to fall that low, that fast. And by the time prices do hit that low, you'll almost always end up having a single die card capable of equal to higher performance than a dual die card.

 

And the only reason the 7990s went as low as they did, was because:

 

  1. AMD didn't have the brand recognition to pull an Nvidia ($1K dual GPU price point) at the same time as their competitor (Nvidia).
  2. The whole micro-stutter fiasco (which thankfully has been fixed, mostly) with dual + GPUs.
  3. The product just wasn't selling due to points 1 & 2.

 

If even at least point 2 hadn't been a problem at the release of the card, AMD would've never slashed the MSRP of their 7990, nor would it have ever gone on Firesale. Because in the end, it would've had the performance/performance characteristics to justify it cost @ $1000 MSRP.

 

Powercolor's essential firesale of their own 7990 cards only happened around the same time AMD started slashing prices of their reference 7990, which would've given it a year since its release to have its firesale. And only because they EOL'd the card, and it just so happened to run into the problems I outlined in points #1 & 2.

 

And now you have the 780Ti/290X essentially vying to beat the previous generation dual die GPUs with a small performance deficit compared to the dual die GPUs. Its just easier to go for the single die/card config in the end imo.

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