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Thanks for taking time to respond. I understand more now.

I look at it as a potential value investment as I keep an eye out for how to keep an older system doing what I need it to do for 3 more yrs.
It's paid for. I have a system and it works well with what I have. If by chance a friend or work is getting rid of some memory I'm keeping my eye out considering what you said.
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But if I buy the cheapest I see anywhere is $20 for DDR 2 2Gb Non ECC unbuffered memory (not matched).

I have 3gb now (2x500mb + 2x1gb) so I might just get 2x2gb and keep the 2x1Gb giving me 6GB total. So for $40 that's not a bad upgrade. I first want to check the timing of the memory I have though first and see if I can match it.

Thanks again.

You're welcome!

Yes, for $40 it's not a bad deal at all, it's a sensible upgrade. 6GB will give you a noticeable boost when multitasking (a web browser with many tabs open, for example) and even for some light gaming it's still a good amount that allows the OS and the game to coexist happily.

The idea of looking out for retired systems is also a good one, you can probably get a good deal on some sticks, perhaps even for free.

Cheers.

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I missed that it was a ddr2 platform on my initial response. (667MHZ and 800MHZ are DDR3 spec speeds. 667MT/s and 800MT/s would be DDR2)

I found it humorous to be reading about computer hardware as an Investment. Given a long enough timeline almost all computer hardware will loose almost very bit of value that it ever had, unless it's perhaps a classic Mac turned into a fish tank or something.

I was using the general terminology employed by sites such as Newegg and even DRAM makers so it's easier to identify the product when shopping around, since DDR allows for that kind of nomenclature and it's what vendors and retailers use. The same as the FSB Intel used on their platforms. The number you'll find on the box of a Core 2 Duo E8600 will be 1333 Mhz FSB, not 333 Mhz FSB (Quad Pumped).

If you want to have such a broad understanding of what an investment is, then nothing really is because in a few hundreds of billions of years this will most probably all be gone. If 6 GB of RAM versus his current 3 GB of RAM lets him be more productive and thus gain more money and / or spend less time waiting for something (and time is money) that allows him to recoup the cost of the purchase and then some, then, yes, it's a good investment. And for $40, it's a pretty reasonable upgrade.

Just like a car or a truck. Unless you're buying a supercar, where the price is likely to not devalue much over the years, some even gain value, then you could also argue that a car in general is not a good investment. The thing is, if you have a restaurant and need to go buy supplies, then a truck is a good investment because it allows your business to work, and even prosper.

I'm not going to judge someone asking for advice whether they will technically be able to recoup every last cent from the purchase, and then make some profit as that is both objective and subjective (how do you quantify better enjoyment out of a system while doing some light gaming ?), especially when the OP mentions that he is aware of the system's age; a DDR2 based system on the other hand is still plenty usable and doubling the RAM from 3 GB to 6 GB does make a difference in everyday usage, so there are tangible benefits generally speaking.
 
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Copy your post TPI2007 and MDOCOD. I'll keep a look out for some DDR2 memory. Free would be the best.

As far as "investment" vs "value" is concerned it doesn't really matter to me. But very funny posts!

I just wanted to know how memory works better. Let's get back to that.

Thanks.
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Quad channel memory usually has better performance than dual. I recently was reading an article about it, I'll see if I can dig it up. I am sure it was techpowerup....
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I was using the general terminology....

What? Pwrmx used that terminology. Not you.
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If you want to have such a broad understanding of what an investment is, then nothing really is because in a few hundreds of billions of years this will most probably all be gone.

If you can't find humor in the literal interpretation of what you said, and have to resort to universe ending parallax and belittling my intelligence then it's apparent that you are not willing to give this conversation a shred of humility.
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Copy your post TPI2007 and MDOCOD. I'll keep a look out for some DDR2 memory. Free would be the best.

As far as "investment" vs "value" is concerned it doesn't really matter to me. But very funny posts!

I just wanted to know how memory works better. Let's get back to that.

Thanks.

No problem! thumb.gif

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Quad channel memory usually has better performance than dual. I recently was reading an article about it, I'll see if I can dig it up. I am sure it was techpowerup....

In real world scenarios, only a few consumer oriented applications benefit from a quad channel memory interface, dual channel is fine for most cases (not that it applies to the OP's system, just a general consideration in the case of an eventual future purchase);


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I was using the general terminology....

What? Pwrmx used that terminology. Not you.
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If you want to have such a broad understanding of what an investment is, then nothing really is because in a few hundreds of billions of years this will most probably all be gone.

If you can't find humor in the literal interpretation of what you said, and have to resort to universe ending parallax and belittling my intelligence then it's apparent that you are not willing to give this conversation a shred of humility.
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I'm not going to judge someone..

For the record, I did not intend to judge anyone. Though take offense to the implication.




1. Yes, I also did use the same nomenclature, here: http://www.overclock.net/t/1474269/quad-channel-memory-or-dual-channel/0_30#post_21950698

2. No, I can't find humour in the literal interpretation of what I said, because you were not trying to make any humour in reality, you just tried to pass off as humour the criticism you had towards my opinion, and you made the point of stating it twice, so no, I can't interpret that belittling as humour. So don't even try to reverse the argument here, you did exactly what you are wrongfully accusing me of. Nitpicking on my phrasing of describing the purchase of 4 x 2 GB (instead of 2 x 4 GB as you had erroneously suggested) as the "better investment" is not a good way to go about things, so don't try to reverse the argument with humility here, your original comment was unnecessary and in bad taste. And your follow-up comment stating the same only proves that you weren't being humorous at all the first time;

I just replied in a rational way on why I think I'm right, or at the very least that it's incorrect to just outright say it can't be an investment, because that is a very relative thing to say, as I tried to demonstrate in a humorous way with the "billions of years" and then more seriously with the practical example of the truck. Spending money on a fast devaluing item does not necessarily equal that it can't be considered an investment. It depends on whether you can get a return from your purchase that surpasses the price of acquisition, this is the core of the question and it seems to me you got it wrong.

3. You surely seemed to with your comment. So take all the offence you want to, but I'd suggest you don't, it's not healthy.
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It was intended to be humorous, you're taking this way to seriously. I found the literal interpretation of what you were saying to be humorous and thought I would share that humor. I guess you tripped up over the smiley face and the fish tank. None of it matters though because the universe is going to end, which will make somebody really wrong.
     
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It was intended to be humorous, you're taking this way to seriously. I found the literal interpretation of what you were saying to be humorous and thought I would share that humor. I guess you tripped up over the smiley face and the fish tank. None of it matters though because the universe is going to end, which will make somebody really wrong.

Ok then, glad we sorted that out. I thought you were just ignoring your honest recommendation mistake with that post and taking a jab at my "better investment" than your general proposal and generalizing it into an "investment" versus value thing. If you had admitted to your mistake, which wasn't a big deal to start with, but I had to point it out for obvious reasons as we were giving recommendations to the OP, then none of this would have happened. Your post and its follow-up came off wrong, that is all, they sound like you aren't willing to admit when you make an honest mistake.

As to your last argument, if it doesn't matter as you say, then your last consideration just means that you are taking this too seriously yourself.

Let's call it quits, shall we ? Have a great weekend!
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I thought I did admit my mistake. I honestly think you are getting enjoyment out of the leverage that my mistake has offered you. That's like, something I would do. There's a reason I am not moderator material. You should know better man.

Just to spite you, I'm going to have a terrible weekend! (can you find the humor in this one?)
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Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Toshiba THNSNH 19nm 256GB 1TB Spinpoint F3 WD RE3 1TB WD RE3 1TB 
Optical DriveCoolingOSOS
yes CM Seidon 120V SolydK OpenSuse 13.1 
OSOSMonitorMonitor
Linux Mint 9-32 bit // Linux Mint 17-64 bit  Manjaro Xfce Samsung 21.5" HannsG 21.5" sideways! 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Sticky ATNG Rosewill Green 630W NZXT Gamma Basic Microsoft corded 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
A10-6800k 4.8GHZ @ 1.375V, 1.2GHZ iGPU Gigabyte GA-F2A85XN-WIFI HD8670D Ripjaws 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Seagate ST1000DM003 Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Zalman CNPS5X Linux Mint 15 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG IPS224V-PN Logitec K360 FSP 400W Aurum S 80+ gold Prodigy 
Mouse
logitec M235 
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