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Given the screen shot in the first post, the MS AHCI driver is installed, msahci. The benchmark results would be worse if the Marvell ports were being used, and the BIOS screen shot clearly shows they are not being used.

My first comment, two HDDs and an optical drive in that PC, that means slower start up. I know your SSD is the OS drive, but POST waits for the HDDs to wake up which is much slower than a SSD.

Question, when you installed Win 7 on your SSD, were any of the HDDs installed and running in the PC?

SATA IDE Combined Mode
set to Enabled in the BIOS, why does AMD still have this IDE nonsense in their chipsets and drivers? Why does ASRock put this option in the BIOS, when there are zero IDE ports on the board? Does that need to be enabled to use an optical drive? If not, disable that option.

I can see an IDE controller in the Device Manager screen shot, which is being enumerated every time the PC boots and might be waiting for an IDE drive (that does not exist) to respond to it before it times out. It's doing nothing but waste time, and has nothing to do.

You included the Magician software screen shot that includes the message, "Your OS is currently optimized for use with an HDD". An AMD chipset with the MS AHCI driver should be compatible with the Magician software, what does the main, Disk Drive screen show about the SATA mode? That might be caused by the IDE controller being active, not that the Magician software can be trusted to know what is going on. Are you unable to change the settings in the OS Optimization screen?
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SSD is aligned?
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@SanguineDrone: IDK what that means

"Question, when you installed Win 7 on your SSD, were any of the HDDs installed and running in the PC?"

@Parsec: yes it was. I followed the guide to put my user profile on my 2nd HDD so I wouldn't eat up real estate on the SSD.


"Are you unable to change the settings in the OS Optimization screen?"

When I do, it undoes a lot of what Sean's guide has had me do. I know Sean's guide is not the bible, but when you do searches, a lot of people reference it.



post #24 of 35
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Sunday Morning Update; took a step back:-\

Updated the chipset with the all in one drivers. rebooted and came to this;




I checked the device manager and now things look a tad different;




This is how my BIOS settings are now :-\







So from my understanding, I am not plugged into the correct SATA 3 port??
post #25 of 35
When I had that.message the SATA 3 driver wasn't installed or got buggered up from the same blue screen installing all in one driver...I had to install the sata3 driver again
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Sunday Morning Update; took a step back:-\

Updated the chipset with the all in one drivers. rebooted and came to this;




I checked the device manager and now things look a tad different;




This is how my BIOS settings are now :-\







So from my understanding, I am not plugged into the correct SATA 3 port??

Correct, you're probably connected to the ASMEDIA controller. Skip the two ports on which your SSD is currently on one of them and connect it to the adjacent port.

But before you do that, could you re-enable 'SATA IDE Combined mode' and see the effects it has?

How's the booting time by the way?
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What bios revision are you currently running? 1.50 is the latest from ASRock

I'd start by re-enabling that 'AMD ACHI BIOS ROM', it should give you a quick RAID like message during post to see what drives are currently running in ACHI, you can disable it after checking on the next boot up

Don't be hesitant to use SATA ports 2 or 3 as well for the drive too, just make it boot priority one and disable the others while you're at it
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post #28 of 35
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@mfknjadagr8: I'll attempt to reinstall the SATA all in one drivers

@eXXon: I re-enabled the IDE combined, no difference in message from Samsung. I did time the boot and it is 42secs

@Azefore: I'll re-enable the raid to see what's in what mode

I dont see how I am on the wrong SATA 3 controller. I figured the A1 & A2 are the ASMedia ones??


Edited by RaFDX - 3/16/14 at 10:05am
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Originally Posted by RaFDX View Post

Sunday Morning Update; took a step back:-\

Updated the chipset with the all in one drivers. rebooted and came to this;




I checked the device manager and now things look a tad different;




This is how my BIOS settings are now :-\







So from my understanding, I am not plugged into the correct SATA 3 port??

NO! You are fine, not a step back, but now getting bad information from the Magician software, that is NOT compatible with the AMD chipset and driver combination!

I see you disabled the AMD AHCI BIOS ROM option. That was a mistake, set that to enabled!

You do NOT have your SSD connected to the ASMedia SATA ports! That is clearly shown in the latest screen shot of the Storage Configuration screen of your BIOS! Ignore those that say otherwise (sorry, check for yourself guys).

Now that you installed the AMD AHCI driver, the AMD SATA controller is now listed in Device Manager under Storage Controllers.

Back to your real problem, installing Windows on your SSD with the HDDs running on the PC. Windows has a bad habit of putting the Master Boot Record (MBR) on a different drive than the target OS drive. The MBR of your OS installation is quite likely on one of your HDDs. Since the MBR is used to boot Windows, it cannot boot until that HDD wakes up, which takes longer than a SSD. That would explain at least part of your slow boot time.

To test this, just unplug the power from your HDDs, with the PC off of course, and then try to boot the PC. If it fails to boot, then what I just described is correct.
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NO! You are fine, not a step back, but now getting bad information from the Magician software, that is NOT compatible with the AMD chipset and driver combination!

I see you disabled the AMD AHCI BIOS ROM option. That was a mistake, set that to enabled!

You do NOT have your SSD connected to the ASMedia SATA ports! That is clearly shown in the latest screen shot of the Storage Configuration screen of your BIOS! Ignore those that say otherwise (sorry, check for yourself guys).

Now that you installed the AMD AHCI driver, the AMD SATA controller is now listed in Device Manager under Storage Controllers.

Back to your real problem, installing Windows on your SSD with the HDDs running on the PC. Windows has a bad habit of putting the Master Boot Record (MBR) on a different drive than the target OS drive. The MBR of your OS installation is quite likely on one of your HDDs. Since the MBR is used to boot Windows, it cannot boot until that HDD wakes up, which takes longer than a SSD. That would explain at least part of your slow boot time.

To test this, just unplug the power from your HDDs, with the PC off of course, and then try to boot the PC. If it fails to boot, then what I just described is correct.

Ok, thank you. What would happen to windows if I startup without my secondary HDD connected? I ask because my user profile is on my HDD, not my SSD. I did it per this guide

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/124198-user-profiles-create-move-during-windows-7-installation.html

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