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Hi,
I ve Z87 AS Rock Extreme4 board and 4670K with very good cooling.
I also use Gigabyte GTX 770 oced.
How much performance do i really need for multiplayer games like bf3 / bf4 or titanfall ? Would 4,2Ghz be enough, or maybe shall i overclock it to 4,4 or even 4,5Ghz?
I ve 60Hz screen.

I dont want to make my cpus lifespan shorter, if not needed. Also, My Macho 02 BW with additional Thermalright Ty-147 pwm fan and Geild Extreme paste cools very well on 750-800rpm stress,
so it works very quietly. Additional Ghz's would make it louder.
post #2 of 10

To answer this, start at stock. Play for a while. Then, overclock just a little bit and play for a while. Then, overclock some more and play for a while. Keep doing this until you get to like let's say 4.5 GHz. If you don't notice any difference between stock and 4.5 GHz (which is what I'm expecting), then you don't "need" to overclock. On the other hand (of course), if you keep noticing superior performance with each increase to the clock speed, then you do.

 

So, it depends on you and what you want and like or don't want and dislike in performance. I mean, I feel that this is a question that can only be answered by experimenting. In other words, answering "how high should I overclock for this" (or that, etc.) is really best answered by "you".

 

Another thing that you can do is this: try stock first and play for a while. Then, go straight to some round number like 4.5 GHz.

 

There's one catch though: with each increase to the clock above stock, you need to test the stability before playing. If it's not fully stable, then you could get worse performance than stock. In order to see the true benefits for you (if there are any), it must be fully stable at each higher clock.


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I have always over clocked the most that I could while keeping thermals in check. As long as your CPU is staying cool enough, you really aren't going to damage your CPU or shorten its lifespan by any considerable amount. At least, in my experiences, I have never had a CPU fail, even after years of running over clocked.

Another benefit of over clocking the most you can now, is that you won't have to over clock again later as games become more demanding or as you upgrade your GPU. This is true until you change the cooling on your CPU.

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post #4 of 10
Stock should be fine 95% of the time unless you have a highend GPU setup. You probably don't need more than 4/4.2Ghz though. In a year or 2 go for 4.5/4.6Ghz. I run 4.2
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Hi,
I ve Z87 AS Rock Extreme4 board and 4670K with very good cooling.
I also use Gigabyte GTX 770 oced.
How much performance do i really need for multiplayer games like bf3 / bf4 or titanfall ? Would 4,2Ghz be enough, or maybe shall i overclock it to 4,4 or even 4,5Ghz?
I ve 60Hz screen.

I dont want to make my cpus lifespan shorter, if not needed. Also, My Macho 02 BW with additional Thermalright Ty-147 pwm fan and Geild Extreme paste cools very well on 750-800rpm stress,
so it works very quietly. Additional Ghz's would make it louder.

Nobody can answer that question for you, but you.

For instance, I have found the Haswell 4770k overkill for my gaming needs, and at present I am gaming with the 4770k set to stock 3.5 GHz and with turbo disabled.

Other people playing exactly the same games, can't get enough with the same CPU at 4.5 GHz and want to OC it to 5 GHz.

Conclusion: You are the sole judge of how much performance you need.
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Try running MSI Afterburner in the background. Make sure you enable the graphs for CPU usage, RAM usage, GPU engine and GPU memory usage. Uncheck stuff like Vsync in your game settings (if not available then do it in your driver settings) which could limit your GPU usage and then run your games. Afterwards check whether your GPU or CPU usage was hitting 100% while you were gaming, and take note of your RAM and graphics memory usage as well. This could give you an idea of whether you are getting a CPU/RAM/GPU bottleneck.
post #7 of 10
hey i wont be making new thread as my bulid looks almost the same (mobo is different) I have basically same question as OP, is there any point in Ocing 4670k if used roughly for gaming only? I've overclocked mine to 4,2 with h100i, i had it on 4,4 but on stress temps were too high and it was unstable also. I tamed my temps on max 88 celcius and here is validation of my cpu oc: http://valid.canardpc.com/hryqvz

Any ideas how to lower temps on max load?
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Try running MSI Afterburner in the background. Make sure you enable the graphs for CPU usage, RAM usage, GPU engine and GPU memory usage. Uncheck stuff like Vsync in your game settings (if not available then do it in your driver settings) which could limit your GPU usage and then run your games. Afterwards check whether your GPU or CPU usage was hitting 100% while you were gaming, and take note of your RAM and graphics memory usage as well. This could give you an idea of whether you are getting a CPU/RAM/GPU bottleneck.

 

I'm not seeing a CPU usage in Afterburner.

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Mine has it, one for each thread. Try enabling it in settings. Actually, I have the newest beta version installed, maybe it's included in that version.
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Mine has it, one for each thread. Try enabling it in settings. Actually, I have the newest beta version installed, maybe it's included in that version.

 

Yeah, I looked in the settings. lol That's where I'm not seeing it.

 

So, yeah, it's something new in the Beta version.

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