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Originally Posted by Rookie1337 View Post

I hope...seen so many laws enacted in the world that actually hide such activities in long drawn out rhetoric so laymen can't figure it out.

The idea they are going for is mostly to have one single charging standard for all phone. It can be recharged in any way you could think/make, but it must have a mUSB port able to power the device (basically).
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Apples proprietary connector for all their devices is what is uncalled for.. ( wouldnt even be so bad if they stuck to a single one, But introducing a new one last year??? really apple? )

You can convert your old connector to the new one via adaptors.

They are sticking with a single one... The old cable was a huge pain-in-the-ass, and they fixed it with the new one. rolleyes.gif
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"But introducing a new one last year??? really apple? )"

How many different ones has apple had since the first iphone?
How does that compare to Samsung, Nokia and others?
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Sigh...am I the only one who sees this as a bad thing for the fact it assumes there's going to be no better design in the future or that nothing will replace mUSB? Does this mean Qi/wireless charging is "illegal"? Also, if someone(s) own the design I assume they're going to enjoy a nice boost in profits. There are things that should be regulated and there are far more that have no real need for it. This falls under the later. rolleyes.gif

Hmm. You do have a point about wireless chargers. I don't think the EU would outlaw them since that's a phone's hardware restricting its use, not necessarily only allowing a certain plug to work with it. I don't see why they couldn't be universal. If anything, that's even easier than standardized cables.

I don't see mini or micro USB going away soon. The newest one, the double-plug 3.0 standard, is still backwards-compatible with the single-plug standard. I don't think anything bad will come of this honestly.

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Apples proprietary connector for all their devices is what is uncalled for.. ( wouldnt even be so bad if they stuck to a single one, But introducing a new one last year??? really apple? )

I wouldn't actually have much of a problem with 30-pin to Lightning if it were an upgrade. Guess what? It wasn't. Both are USB 2.0-based connections IIRC. The only thing this does is let Apple sell their $25 cables and $20 adapters for your now-useless 30-pin devices.
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Apples proprietary connector for all their devices is what is uncalled for.. ( wouldnt even be so bad if they stuck to a single one, But introducing a new one last year??? really apple? )
The 30-pin connector came out in 2003 and was finally replaced after a decade. That's soooo evil, right?
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Apples proprietary connector for all their devices is what is uncalled for.. ( wouldnt even be so bad if they stuck to a single one, But introducing a new one last year??? really apple? )

They new cable was a much needed update. And in my opinion is much better solution than anyone else's data / power connectors. The old connector was large and could only go one way ( my biggest gripe with most connectors, to be quite honest ). If you're spending that much money for a phone and accessories, then a simple $20 adapter to continue using all your accessories is nothing. It's not like they're forcing you to buy all new accessories and cables for everything. But in my opinion, mini and micro USB are not fit for phones any more than proprietary connectors are. We need a new standard ( and for it to actually be a standard ), one that is completely reversible like Apples.

Besides, a 10 year long run of the same connector is pretty good in my mind.

And Apple is not the only one with a proprietary adapter. Every company has used one at one point, or even still does. This is less prominent now with USB connections carrying power, instead of a dedicated power connection of yesteryear. And I still own quite a few phones that use Mini USB and phones that use Micro USB, while not exactly proprietary you'd face equal controversy updating from a phone with Mini USB to a phone with Micro USB. You'd have to buy an adapter, or even replace your accessories. And what happens when another new USB plug comes along? You'll have to go through it again.
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USB 3.1 is supposed to be the size of current mini USB and reversible. That and the whole 10GbHz makes it seems like quite a nice upgrade. I might even have a use for my PCIe x4 slot.
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USB 3.1 is supposed to be the size of current mini USB and reversible. That and the whole 10GbHz makes it seems like quite a nice upgrade. I might even have a use for my PCIe x4 slot.

What is a GbHz? tongue.gif
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I occasionally use Hertz (Hz) instead of 1/s or s^-1 (reciprocal seconds) because it amuses me. It's the exact same measurement, like using cubic centimeters or milliliters, or using momentum squared or Newton-seconds. Same thing.
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Oh god please not the crappy constantly breaking micro USB ........ mad.gif Apple's lightning is so much better it's not even funny and anyway every company should have a right to pick their own format what is this Soviet Russia ?
I was going to add few things but this guy beat me to it tongue.gif I agree 100%
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They new cable was a much needed update. And in my opinion is much better solution than anyone else's data / power connectors. The old connector was large and could only go one way ( my biggest gripe with most connectors, to be quite honest ). If you're spending that much money for a phone and accessories, then a simple $20 adapter to continue using all your accessories is nothing. It's not like they're forcing you to buy all new accessories and cables for everything. But in my opinion, mini and micro USB are not fit for phones any more than proprietary connectors are. We need a new standard ( and for it to actually be a standard ), one that is completely reversible like Apples.

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Edited by RobotDevil666 - 3/15/14 at 2:30pm
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