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Originally Posted by Legonut View Post

I can understand this being good for the consumer but it really isn't needed. Eventually we will see a universal connector arise due to survival of the fittest. It's how USB got this far and governments stepping in is uncalled for.
Uhhh....

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Apples proprietary connector for all their devices is what is uncalled for.. ( wouldnt even be so bad if they stuck to a single one, But introducing a new one last year??? really apple? )
Yeah, this. If people didn't buy products that didn't have a standard port for charging, Apple would have gone out of business a long ago. Clearly this isn't the case, and people will buy some products regardless of proprietary crap, so someone else has to step in if we want a true standard or universal solution. Now, if we should want a true universal solution is another question entirely. Adapters for different types of cable are very common and cheap on the internet.

Still, if you are for a real, true, "standard" connector across all devices, there's no way to make it happen other than regulation. "survival of the fittest" doesn't work here.
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post #22 of 80
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Apples proprietary connector for all their devices is what is uncalled for.. ( wouldnt even be so bad if they stuck to a single one, But introducing a new one last year??? really apple? )

I don't see a problem with this either. Processors for example, how many times have intel changed sockets in the last 10 years compared to how many times apple changed their ports.
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post #23 of 80
A Micro USB connector or any other combined power + data port is a terrible idea. It's another vulnerability vector (as has been previously shown) that should not exist. How about a charging port that only does that, charge ?
 
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post #24 of 80
noble goal, not going to happen. apple for starters would not bend over and this move would also kill connector innovation.

as much as i want to like microUSB (great stuff when it works and its compatibility with things) i do kinda hate them on phones or atlest the guys should learn to solder and attach these things properly. my microUSB ports keep breaking off being ripped off from the PCB not to mention the connectors go lose and stop working after nth time
post #25 of 80
Only way I see this happening is if they had a dedicated charging port.
Other wise if every one is forced to have a musb port I foresee them putting on a gimped musb port that only does charging and no data support
post #26 of 80
Regardless of if its a mUSB port or not as the standard, I am a fan.

Also, while I defend Apple for changing their charger for only changing once since ~03, the lightning cables still break just as often as the 30pin. We need to find a cable with a metal /more durable portion that connects the actual end to the cable.
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post #27 of 80
Frankly a little surprised the thread made it 26 posts without this link:

https://xkcd.com/927/
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post #28 of 80
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Frankly a little surprised the thread made it 26 posts without this link:

https://xkcd.com/927/

Not relevant, No one's creating a new "standard" they're actually picking one.
(The comic is a reference to software not hardware/ Even if it mentions A/C chargers it wouldn't be applicable, there's pretty much one type of charger and it's cylindrical, all the rest are for data and charging)
 
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post #29 of 80
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A Micro USB connector or any other combined power + data port is a terrible idea. It's another vulnerability vector (as has been previously shown) that should not exist. How about a charging port that only does that, charge ?

Well manufacturer can put a charging-only micro USB in there if it desires so. However, currently (because micro USB spec allows only relatively limited current) all my devices have that small round power thingy (usually 2.5 or 3.5 mm one) and micro USB port that can be used also for charging if one so desires. I find it really convenient, when I sit down at my PC I just plug in whatever device (even if it's tablet) I carry that is running low on juice into a spare micro USB connector lying on my desk and it charges while I do stuff on my PC. That means that nothing prevents one to use some other charging method if so desires, be it wireless, or option to shake the device to charge it - it just means that it must be able to charge it also over micro USB (assuming it gets approved) if it's classed as "smartphone". For tablets the micro USB only would be a bit limiting, although I can see someone implementing 4x micro USB ports if this is strongly enforced on tablets as well just to be able to draw 20 W from the wall.
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post #30 of 80
should have make universal battery form-factor like ATX casing that comes with a few diff sizes. And make phone have no battery build-in

applies to phone/tablet/laptops
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