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Carson:

Thanks for the fast response, which is much appreciated. Yes, I did mean the ("true") PWM control. It is a shame that Swiftech has not fixed this!)
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Carson:

Thanks for the fast response, which is much appreciated. Yes, I did mean the ("true") PWM control. It is a shame that Swiftech has not fixed this!)

No problem... I was helped too smile.gif . I agree that Swiftech has shirked its responsibility to fix this... at least they could offer an OEM resistor cable for purchase... luckily we have OCN!

-Carson
  
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Yes, indeed! I wonder is Swiftech is even aware of it. (It very probably is.). Thanks to OCN - especially, Darlene and many others, who have spent countless hours and dollars so that noobs like me would not have to muck around fecklessly - I most likely will not buy the Swiftech's assertedly (but not really?!) PWM pump. My personal thanks to all these guys!
Edited by Ragpad - 7/12/14 at 1:56pm
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Why are you guys blaming Swiftech? It is a Laing D5 PWM pump rebrand. Laing is at fault here. Other brands have rebranded this as well, Swiftech is just the most popular name.
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I have an "even stupider" question: Let us say that there are 18 fans ("push-pull" configured) on a radiator using the Swiftec 8-way PWM splitters. Do I have to use all the AQ6 fan channels; or can I use less than all four fan channels? (I have not decided on how best to divvy up the PWM connectors from the Watercool MO-RA3 140 radiator fans, in case you are wondering. As always, ideas are welcome and much appreciated.) Also, does anyone know if the BitFenix Spectre Pro BFF-SPRO-P14025KK-RP 140mm PWM Case Fan works well with AQ6? Thanks!
Edited by Ragpad - 7/12/14 at 2:36pm
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Why are you guys blaming Swiftech? It is a Laing D5 PWM pump rebrand. Laing is at fault here. Other brands have rebranded this as well, Swiftech is just the most popular name.

@geggeg:

Yes, you are correct in that they all "rebrand" the pumps made by Laing. However, as a "rebranding" (slapping its own very identity on the item) vendor, one need insure that it conforms to the "standards," before it sells something to the public (especially if it is aware of the issues). Even otherwise, Swiftech should have at the very least fixed the problem (I candidly do not know if it has, but "assuming" that it has not). However, I do see your point of view. Thanks!
Edited by Ragpad - 7/12/14 at 3:09pm
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Well Swiftech is making their own pumps now starting with the mcp50x. So let @BramSLI1 know of your interest in either a fixed D5 PWM or their own implementation of it.
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Well Swiftech is making their own pumps now starting with the mcp50x. So let @BramSLI1 know of your interest in either a fixed D5 PWM or their own implementation of it.

Thanks @geggeg for the information. I shall contact Swiftech. (I do like their products.) Much obliged!
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Carson:

Thanks for the fast response, which is much appreciated. Yes, I did mean the ("true") PWM control. It is a shame that Swiftech has not fixed this!)

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Carson:

Thanks for the fast response, which is much appreciated. Yes, I did mean the ("true") PWM control. It is a shame that Swiftech has not fixed this!)

No problem... I was helped too smile.gif . I agree that Swiftech has shirked its responsibility to fix this... at least they could offer an OEM resistor cable for purchase... luckily we have OCN!

-Carson


I'd hesitate to dump it on Swiftech . . . .

It's a design feature that Lang built into the electronic control so that the pump only runs at a moderate 60% when there's is no PWM connection, instead of at max speed like the 35X or fans in general.

Until the Aquaero, it was a useful compromise, since generally speaking, mobos have pullups on the CPU fan header, even though they don't have to by the Intel standard, and there was no real issue.

It would be nice to see, on a PCB revision sometime in the near future, the option in Aquasuite to enable a pullup for at least 1 channel.

Or as mentioned, for Swiftech to offer an extension with the pullup mod built in.


Darlene
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I'd hesitate to dump it on Swiftech . . . .

It's a design feature that Lang built into the electronic control so that the pump only runs at a moderate 60% when there's is no PWM connection, instead of at max speed like the 35X or fans in general.

Until the Aquaero, it was a useful compromise, since generally speaking, mobos have pullups on the CPU fan header, even though they don't have to by the Intel standard, and there was no real issue.

It would be nice to see, on a PCB revision sometime in the near future, the option in Aquasuite to enable a pullup for at least 1 channel.

Or as mentioned, for Swiftech to offer an extension with the pullup mod built in.


Darlene

Point taken regarding the Laing D5 being rebranded. Why would the pump be designed to run at 60% without pwm, though? I've noticed that when leak testing, my 35x is far more powerful than my D5... is this for bleeding air or something? Oh, and while I'm here I wanted to ask: does the color of the wire matter or just the pin assignment when doing the D5 mid? I ask because I'm making an extension cable using a PWM extension from Noctua, and they have the green and blue wires reversed: the green is on the 3rd pin and the blue is on the 4th. It's a fan extension cable, and I've started to wonder if the wire gauge is the same as those on a pump.

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