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post #421 of 11226
Hi everyone.

I'm currently very interested in getting an Aquaero. I've read about the problems regarding the D5 PWM and the Corsair PWM fans, which unfortunately I own.

The D5 PWM I have is a Darkside D5 Storm PWM (see: http://www.dazmode.com/store/category/bare_pumps/, however he no longer sells them).

I have a set of 12 Corsair PWM fans which I'd rather not change.

I currently order all my WC stuff from Dazmode (yes I'm from Canada) and he has this version: http://www.dazmode.com/store/product/aquaero-6-xt-usb-fan-controller-graphic-lcd-touch-control-ir-remote-control/

So, a couple of question:
1) Will the Aquaero work with the Corsair PWM fans?
2) Will it work with the D5 PWM?
3) Do I need a special version of the Aquaero (I remember seeing that claimed somewhere)?
4) Are the boards developped by ITDiva available for sale somewhere (I could always build it, but kinda short on time these days...)
5) What's the current status with these PWM?
6) Do you guys recommended to ditch the pumps/fans and just get Aquacomputer pumps and other fans (what fans)?

Thanks!
post #422 of 11226
Hi All..............

I posted a couple of questions in post #337, but given there were no suggestions to answer these, I figure no-one new the answers; so I did some reading and I think I have come up with the answers. I have been using the Aquasuite software only.

The first question was why could I not see four temps as chosen via the "Information Page" on my screen. The answer is that only temperatures that are chosen as a "Data Source" in "Controllers" can be seen on the screen of the 6 XT. I interpreted this from the following: (found at 12 in the User Information Manual)

"Notice on differences between aquasuite and device menu: In the aquasuite,
outputs are assigned to controllers on the controller page. In the device
menu, controllers are assigned in the outputs menu. Furthermore, the aqua-
suite will only display controllers that have an assigned data source as well as
output for better clarity. The device menu always shows all controllers regard-
less of whether they are configured or used for outputs."

The second question related to the four tiny F1, F2, F3 and F4 ...seen at the very bottom of the screen. These can only be applied when using the hand held controller...and not through the Aquasuite Software. There is mention at 16.4 (of the User Information Manual), that these F keys can be programmed by the "Device" (the hand held controller) to simplify navigation to certain information pages. In other words they have no relevance for anyone using the Aquasuite software.


I am still learning ...... the next area I am to tackle is the "Overview Pages" section.

Cheers smile.gif

Macforth
post #423 of 11226
Hi all
If i want to use pwm fans on 1 header and i split the fans cables so they take power from the PSU and only connect the tech and pwm signal cables to the aquaero, do i need to worry about rhe AMPs per channle?
I want to connect 6 CM jetflo 120 and they are spec at 0.04 amps
post #424 of 11226
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Originally Posted by avielcs View Post

Hi all
If i want to use pwm fans on 1 header and i split the fans cables so they take power from the PSU and only connect the tech and pwm signal cables to the aquaero, do i need to worry about rhe AMPs per channle?
I want to connect 6 CM jetflo 120 and they are spec at 0.04 amps

No, if the power is coming straight from the psu then the channel is under no load and power rating does not matter
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post #425 of 11226
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No, if the power is coming straight from the psu then the channel is under no load and power rating does not matter
Thanks
Another question is if i connect 6 fans this way does the aquaero still have an issue with corsair sp120 fans?
post #426 of 11226
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Originally Posted by avielcs View Post

Thanks
Another question is if i connect 6 fans this way does the aquaero still have an issue with corsair sp120 fans?

I only have experience with the non pwm versions but based on others who have posted in this thread there is a chance it will have issues.
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post #427 of 11226
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Thanks
Another question is if i connect 6 fans this way does the aquaero still have an issue with corsair sp120 fans?

If you want to PWM control that many PWM Corsair SP120s on a single channel, those Corsair fans do have issues not just with the Aquaero, but with any PWM splitter from a mobo header or whatever. You might want to see about getting a Diva Dapter PCB from Darlene to address the issue. More info here.
post #428 of 11226
I thought I read somewhere that a certain load was needed on an active channel or it would turn the unused energy to heat?

Would that apply to avielcs question or since no actual power would be drawn it would be Ok?
   
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post #429 of 11226
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Quote:
Originally Posted by f4lcon View Post

Hi everyone.

I'm currently very interested in getting an Aquaero. I've read about the problems regarding the D5 PWM and the Corsair PWM fans, which unfortunately I own.

The D5 PWM I have is a Darkside D5 Storm PWM (see: http://www.dazmode.com/store/category/bare_pumps/, however he no longer sells them).

I have a set of 12 Corsair PWM fans which I'd rather not change.

I currently order all my WC stuff from Dazmode (yes I'm from Canada) and he has this version: http://www.dazmode.com/store/product/aquaero-6-xt-usb-fan-controller-graphic-lcd-touch-control-ir-remote-control/

So, a couple of question:
1) Will the Aquaero work with the Corsair PWM fans?
2) Will it work with the D5 PWM?
3) Do I need a special version of the Aquaero (I remember seeing that claimed somewhere)?
4) Are the boards developped by ITDiva available for sale somewhere (I could always build it, but kinda short on time these days...)
5) What's the current status with these PWM?
6) Do you guys recommended to ditch the pumps/fans and just get Aquacomputer pumps and other fans (what fans)?

Thanks!


To use the PWM version D5's with the Aquaero, you need to, at the least, add a 5V pullup circuit to the PWM lead.

This is about the easiest way to do it:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1474470/ocn-aquaero-owners-club/50#post_21956203

Read the posts on that page and the next few pages to get all the info that you'll need.


The Corsair PWM fans are another matter.

Depending on individual variations, you'll progressively loose speed control over them at a number between 5 and 7.

Usually, 4 work as expected, but as you add more, you loose the ability to slow them down more and more as you add the next few.

By 7 or 8 of them, they run full speed regardless of what you set in ASuite.


The reason is that as you add the PWM lines in parallel, it effectively lowers the source impedance, and when you look at source impedance in series with the A6's 100Ohm protective input resistors, there's too much voltage drop across the protective resistors and the A6 can no longer effectively pull the PWM input close enough to 0V (gnd) so the fans just see a near 100% PWM signal.


According to Shoggy, the next A6's will have 47 Ohm input resistors, which should allow the A6 to at least work with more than 4 or 5 of the Corsair fans per channel.


The only way to truly add as many fans as you need is with an add-on circuit.

You can see the one I have made and tested starting here:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1474470/ocn-aquaero-owners-club/150


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post #430 of 11226
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by avielcs View Post

Hi all
If i want to use pwm fans on 1 header and i split the fans cables so they take power from the PSU and only connect the tech and pwm signal cables to the aquaero, do i need to worry about rhe AMPs per channle?
I want to connect 6 CM jetflo 120 and they are spec at 0.04 amps


Just make sure that you only connect 1 pump's or fan's tach line per channel, otherwise the RPM will be erratic if it reads at all.

Connecting several PWM lines is fine.

D.
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