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Thank you D. for the search direction. I read most of the posts linked and my take-away is that the primary issue was with the Corsair PWM implementation.

The fans I am interested in are NOCTUA NF-A14 industrialPPC-2000 PWM, but they apparently have a proprietary PWM motor controller and I wonder if anyone has experience driving them with the aquaero PWM function?
Currently controlling 6 of these fans from Aquaro 5LT fan channel 4 with PWM
They are set up in 2 sets of 3 for Push/Pull and each set has it's own separate external power source power cables direct from PSU, but all are PWM controlled from Aquaero channel 4.
Full range of rpm available 200rpm - 2000 rpm = PWM from 35% to 100%.
No Problems to report thumb.gif

EDIT - same PSU, but not powered from Aquaero, sorry, what I typed above might have been misleading
and to hitt 2000rpm takes a little bit of over-volting tongue.gif

EDIT 2 - added the plot below - results from single fan only, not multiple fans connected.


Edited by fast_fate - 10/4/15 at 9:13am
post #5672 of 11091
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Currently controlling 6 of these fans from Aquaro 5LT fan channel 4 with PWM
They are set up in 2 sets of 3 for Push/Pull and each set has it's own separate external power source power cables direct from PSU, but all are PWM controlled from Aquaero channel 4.
Full range of rpm available 200rpm - 2000 rpm = PWM from 35% to 100%.
No Problems to report thumb.gif

EDIT - same PSU, but not powered from Aquaero, sorry, what I typed above might have been misleading
and to hitt 2000rpm takes a little bit of over-volting tongue.gif

EDIT 2 - added the plot below - results from single fan only, not multiple fans connected.


Great, thank you, so nice to get real life experiences when it comes to the somewhat touchy PWM implementations.
post #5673 of 11091
I'm about ready to finish my new build in a Phantom 630 case for my son. It would be done, but I got a leaky UT60 240, so I had to take it out and I'm waiting for the EK XE I'm replacing it with, I'm putting in an AQ6 Pro, and bought/installed an MPS 400 sensor for it. Reading up on it, I'm growing more and more convinced that the 400 won't be appropriate, because I doubt I will get flow between 200 lph and 400 lph at reasonable pump speeds (some day I will learn to do my homework before buying instead of the other way around).

How can I estimate the expected flow rate for the loop, so I can decide on the appropriate MPS flow sensor? My components:

- Aquacomputer D5 PWM (Bitspower mod kit and mod top), with Bitspower dual/single upgrade kit
- 1/2" - 3/4" flex tubing and Monsoon center fittings
- Bitspower Titan X block
- EK Supremacy EVO
- Alphacool XT 45 360 mm
- EK XE 240 mm

I have been reading the extremerigs reports on the subject, but can't seem to find the expected restrictions for these components, and my google-fu skills are proving inadequate, so any help will be much appreciated.
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I'm about ready to finish my new build in a Phantom 630 case for my son. It would be done, but I got a leaky UT60 240, so I had to take it out and I'm waiting for the EK XE I'm replacing it with, I'm putting in an AQ6 Pro, and bought/installed an MPS 400 sensor for it. Reading up on it, I'm growing more and more convinced that the 400 won't be appropriate, because I doubt I will get flow between 200 lph and 400 lph at reasonable pump speeds (some day I will learn to do my homework before buying instead of the other way around).

How can I estimate the expected flow rate for the loop, so I can decide on the appropriate MPS flow sensor? My components:

- Aquacomputer D5 PWM (Bitspower mod kit and mod top), with Bitspower dual/single upgrade kit
- 1/2" - 3/4" flex tubing and Monsoon center fittings
- Bitspower Titan X block
- EK Supremacy EVO
- Alphacool XT 45 360 mm
- EK XE 240 mm

I have been reading the extremerigs reports on the subject, but can't seem to find the expected restrictions for these components, and my google-fu skills are proving inadequate, so any help will be much appreciated.

Though this calculator may be dated, it may give some help.

And the MPS Flow 400 is rated from 80 lph to 400 lph, so you may be OK.
post #5675 of 11091
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I'm about ready to finish my new build in a Phantom 630 case for my son. It would be done, but I got a leaky UT60 240, so I had to take it out and I'm waiting for the EK XE I'm replacing it with, I'm putting in an AQ6 Pro, and bought/installed an MPS 400 sensor for it. Reading up on it, I'm growing more and more convinced that the 400 won't be appropriate, because I doubt I will get flow between 200 lph and 400 lph at reasonable pump speeds (some day I will learn to do my homework before buying instead of the other way around).

How can I estimate the expected flow rate for the loop, so I can decide on the appropriate MPS flow sensor? My components:

- Aquacomputer D5 PWM (Bitspower mod kit and mod top), with Bitspower dual/single upgrade kit
- 1/2" - 3/4" flex tubing and Monsoon center fittings
- Bitspower Titan X block
- EK Supremacy EVO
- Alphacool XT 45 360 mm
- EK XE 240 mm

I have been reading the extremerigs reports on the subject, but can't seem to find the expected restrictions for these components, and my google-fu skills are proving inadequate, so any help will be much appreciated.

you need to find the curves for each component and add it up to see how much pressure will be lost at a given flow rate. But in any case don't worry. The mps 400 will be appropriate for your loop. It can read from around 0.3 GPM to up to 2 GPM (~68 lph to 454 lph). If you want to know more about it take a look here:

https://martinsliquidlab.wordpress.com/pump-planning-guide/

need to catch up with 2 weeks and hundreds of posts around ocn...Any breaking news I missed folks?
post #5676 of 11091
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you need to find the curves for each component and add it up to see how much pressure will be lost at a given flow rate. But in any case don't worry. The mps 400 will be appropriate for your loop. It can read from around 0.3 GPM to up to 2 GPM (~68 lph to 454 lph). If you want to know more about it take a look here:

https://martinsliquidlab.wordpress.com/pump-planning-guide/

need to catch up with 2 weeks and hundreds of posts around ocn...Any breaking news I missed folks?
B NEGATIVE had a case get broken from shipping damage and loop drained all over everything in it . thing its now needs new panels . not much else really
post #5677 of 11091
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Originally Posted by InfoSeeker View Post

Though this calculator may be dated, it may give some help.

And the MPS Flow 400 is rated from 80 lph to 400 lph, so you may be OK.

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Originally Posted by Gabrielzm View Post

you need to find the curves for each component and add it up to see how much pressure will be lost at a given flow rate. But in any case don't worry. The mps 400 will be appropriate for your loop. It can read from around 0.3 GPM to up to 2 GPM (~68 lph to 454 lph). If you want to know more about it take a look here:

https://martinsliquidlab.wordpress.com/pump-planning-guide/

need to catch up with 2 weeks and hundreds of posts around ocn...Any breaking news I missed folks?

Thanks IS and Gabriel! +rep to both of you. It would seem I am in good shape, sometimes you get lucky!
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Hi all just a quick question about the Aquaero 5/6

if i setup the fan curves by water temp up in the software can save it to the device and it will still work even if the software isn't running
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Hi all just a quick question about the Aquaero 5/6

if i setup the fan curves by water temp up in the software can save it to the device and it will still work even if the software isn't running

Yes, the software is just a programming and monitoring aide ... it is not required. The Aquaero will do its programmed job even if not connected to any PC
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I'm about ready to finish my new build in a Phantom 630 case for my son. It would be done, but I got a leaky UT60 240, so I had to take it out and I'm waiting for the EK XE I'm replacing it with, I'm putting in an AQ6 Pro, and bought/installed an MPS 400 sensor for it. Reading up on it, I'm growing more and more convinced that the 400 won't be appropriate, because I doubt I will get flow between 200 lph and 400 lph at reasonable pump speeds (some day I will learn to do my homework before buying instead of the other way around).

How can I estimate the expected flow rate for the loop, so I can decide on the appropriate MPS flow sensor? My components:

- Aquacomputer D5 PWM (Bitspower mod kit and mod top), with Bitspower dual/single upgrade kit
- 1/2" - 3/4" flex tubing and Monsoon center fittings
- Bitspower Titan X block
- EK Supremacy EVO
- Alphacool XT 45 360 mm
- EK XE 240 mm

I have been reading the extremerigs reports on the subject, but can't seem to find the expected restrictions for these components, and my google-fu skills are proving inadequate, so any help will be much appreciated.

That loop will easily exceed 1GPM ( about 225LPH)

Unless the new Bitspower GPU blocks are suddenly very restrictive then you should be much closer to 300LPH than to 200, and maybe at very minimum speed you might get the meter to hit its minimum but one of my loops has more blocks and narrower tube and struggles to push any less than 90LPH
Edited by Jakusonfire - 10/6/15 at 5:52am
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