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post #5981 of 11094
I'm currently putting together a thought build around a CaseLabs S5. I found a sketchup version of the Aquaero ... how cool is that. Thank you who ever did that. I've also found a OOD and a card-reader that I will add at some point.

You can see the tubing coming out of the pedestal just in the right position to go into the aquaero block and then to head over to the motherboard block.

I'm planning on putting in a Aquero 6 Pro. My cooling set up will be 2 x 120.3 60mm wide radiators with fans in push and pull (12 cooling fans in total). Initial thoughts are to run them in either 4 banks of 3 (push, push, pull, pull) or 2 banks of 6 (push on both rads, pull on both rads) with the pull fans only kicking in when the going gets tough.

Can the Aquaero 6 do this? I am assuming it can. Any cheats that I can use (ie only getting the PWM from 1 fan per fan bank?). Any thing else that I need?

The current pump thought is a Swiftech MCP655-PWM 12v Water D5 Pump Module - PWM (Single Version) - will this unit give me the control that I think I can get from the Aquaero?

I've currently working through the guides on page 1 of this thread (btw - first guide link is broken) and ... so far ... it is only talking about the Aquaero 5 ... any major differences between the two other than cooling requirements?


S5-0012.jpg
post #5982 of 11094
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ruffhi View Post

I'm currently putting together a thought build around a CaseLabs S5. I found a sketchup version of the Aquaero ... how cool is that. Thank you who ever did that. I've also found a OOD and a card-reader that I will add at some point.

You can see the tubing coming out of the pedestal just in the right position to go into the aquaero block and then to head over to the motherboard block.

I'm planning on putting in a Aquero 6 Pro. My cooling set up will be 2 x 120.3 60mm wide radiators with fans in push and pull (12 cooling fans in total). Initial thoughts are to run them in either 4 banks of 3 (push, push, pull, pull) or 2 banks of 6 (push on both rads, pull on both rads) with the pull fans only kicking in when the going gets tough.

Can the Aquaero 6 do this? I am assuming it can. Any cheats that I can use (ie only getting the PWM from 1 fan per fan bank?). Any thing else that I need?

The current pump thought is a Swiftech MCP655-PWM 12v Water D5 Pump Module - PWM (Single Version) - will this unit give me the control that I think I can get from the Aquaero?

I've currently working through the guides on page 1 of this thread (btw - first guide link is broken) and ... so far ... it is only talking about the Aquaero 5 ... any major differences between the two other than cooling requirements?


Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
S5-0012.jpg



The 6 and the 5 are quite similar from an operations perspective, so the guides for the 5 translate over pretty well.

The 6 series is electrically much more advanced than the 5 series.

All 4 fan ports can be configured for either voltage or PWM control, where the 5 series only had port 4 able to be selectable.

Perhaps more importantly, the 6 has much greater load capacity than the 5's.

They also run much cooler, and watercooling a 6 is pretty much a waste of time, effort, and fittings. . . . where the 5 was really helped by watercooling.

For lots of fans, PWM is always a better option . . . for most PWM fans you should have no issues with 10 per channel, as a minimum, before you start to loose the lower range of speed control. . . . Assuming of course, that you using a PSU powered PWM splitter.

For voltage controlled fans, you have a max of 30W per channel.


The Swiftech PWM D5 will need the Diva Mod, if you get the AquaComputer PWM D5 instead, it's already Aquaero compatible.

Hope that helps,


Darlene
post #5983 of 11094
Thx Darlene for the info. Two things for me to research / look into ...
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Originally Posted by IT Diva View Post

Assuming of course, that you using a PSU powered PWM splitter.

A what? I'll see if I can google that one.

Quote:
The Swiftech PWM D5 will need the Diva Mod, if you get the AquaComputer PWM D5 instead, it's already Aquaero compatible.

Noted.
post #5984 of 11094
Here is what I found from google ...

PWN 1-To-4 Fan Splitter Cable (Sleeved)



You'll note that the cables come from the molex are only coming from one side. I am assuming they are only coming from the 12v and GND portions of the molex. They are there to provide power to the fans.



From what I can find, here is the standard 4-pin fan connector wiring ...



That green on grey writing isn't so flash ... I am assuming is says RPM.
____________________________________________________________________________________________

Now, I am planning on having 12 x 120mm PWM fans (Cryorig QF120 Balance) in the pedestal. I can either run them as 4 banks of 3 or 2 banks of 6.

  • 4 Banks of 3 Fans (two per radiator)
    • 2 banks in push mode (one per rad)
    • 2 banks in pull mode (one per rad)
    • The 'push' banks (or pull ... not sure yet) are on by default with the other only coming on as required (ie water temp too high).
  • 2 Banks of 6
    • one bank in pull spanning both radiators
    • one bank in push spanning both radiators
    • The 'push' bank (or pull ... not sure yet) are on by default with the other only coming on as required (ie water temp too high).
____________________________________________________________________________________________

So ... imagine the pedestal set up a-la 'cpachris' from his BBBB thread with the following fan connectors come from it ...
cpachris' fan power connection to pedestal (Click to show)

... one connector supplying the power to the fans in a bank and the other connector supplying the PWM signal to fans (I am going to call them a 'power connector' and an 'info connector'). One of the fans (per bank) would need to be set up with a RPM connector so that the Aquaero could get that information back.

So ... if I set it up as 2 banks of 6 then I would need 4 fan connectors coming from the pedestal. I run a molex power lead from the PSU, carve out the 12v and GND wires into two fan connectors and plug them into the appropriate 'power' fan connectors for the pedestal. I also need to run two fan (2-wire) cables from the Aquaero to the pedestal connections and plug them into the 'info' fan connectors.

Is that right? If so, I'll have to remember to label them appropriately ... or maybe use a red fan connector for power and a white (or black) connector for info.
post #5985 of 11094
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ruffhi View Post

Here is what I found from google ...

PWN 1-To-4 Fan Splitter Cable (Sleeved)
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
You'll note that the cables come from the molex are only coming from one side. I am assuming they are only coming from the 12v and GND portions of the molex. They are there to provide power to the fans.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
From what I can find, here is the standard 4-pin fan connector wiring ...
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
That green on grey writing isn't so flash ... I am assuming is says RPM.
____________________________________________________________________________________________

Now, I am planning on having 12 x 120mm PWM fans (Cryorig QF120 Balance) in the pedestal. I can either run them as 4 banks of 3 or 2 banks of 6.

  • 4 Banks of 3 Fans (two per radiator)
    • 2 banks in push mode (one per rad)
    • 2 banks in pull mode (one per rad)
    • The 'push' banks (or pull ... not sure yet) are on by default with the other only coming on as required (ie water temp too high).
  • 2 Banks of 6
    • one bank in pull spanning both radiators
    • one bank in push spanning both radiators
    • The 'push' bank (or pull ... not sure yet) are on by default with the other only coming on as required (ie water temp too high).
____________________________________________________________________________________________

So ... imagine the pedestal set up a-la 'cpachris' from his BBBB thread with the following fan connectors come from it ...
cpachris' fan power connection to pedestal (Click to show)

... one connector supplying the power to the fans in a bank and the other connector supplying the PWM signal to fans (I am going to call them a 'power connector' and an 'info connector'). One of the fans (per bank) would need to be set up with a RPM connector so that the Aquaero could get that information back.

So ... if I set it up as 2 banks of 6 then I would need 4 fan connectors coming from the pedestal. I run a molex power lead from the PSU, carve out the 12v and GND wires into two fan connectors and plug them into the appropriate 'power' fan connectors for the pedestal. I also need to run two fan (2-wire) cables from the Aquaero to the pedestal connections and plug them into the 'info' fan connectors.

Is that right? If so, I'll have to remember to label them appropriately ... or maybe use a red fan connector for power and a white (or black) connector for info.



The 3rd wire in a fan connector is the rpm wire.

This is probably the most reliable and popular PWM splitter available . . it's available in either sata, as linked, or molex connection to the PSU.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/pwm-cables/swiftech-8-way-pwm-splitter-box-sata.html

I'd set up as groups of 6 on each rad and forget having a set of fans turn off if not needed . . . PWM has such good low speed capability, that you'll have quieter operation with all the fans running at a lower speed than you'd have with half of them off and the other half doing all the work.


D.
Edited by IT Diva - 11/7/15 at 6:39pm
post #5986 of 11094
HA.. $20 is totally worth not having to worry about doing the cabling right and getting the various fan connectors, etc. Thanks heaps for the suggestion. +REP
post #5987 of 11094
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Originally Posted by ruffhi View Post

HA.. $20 is totally worth not having to worry about doing the cabling right and getting the various fan connectors, etc. Thanks heaps for the suggestion. +REP


Not sure what case you have, but the wires from the splitters are pretty short, (about a foot long) so you'll probably need a 4 pin fan extension cable for each splitter to reach back to the Aquaero. . . . or make your own if you have the connectors and pins, since you really only need 2 wires, the rpm and PWM ones.


If you're not up to making your own, here's a couple examples of 4 pin fan extension cables:

http://www.performance-pcs.com/akasa-pwm-fan-extension-cable-30cm.html

http://www.performance-pcs.com/darkside-4-pin-70cm-27-m-f-pwm-fan-sleeved-cable-jet-black.html
post #5988 of 11094
At the moment, I am researching a CaseLabs S5 build to replace my Corsair 550D. I won't have the $ to start this project for ages ... but that just means more time to think, plan and wait for newer stuff to come out smile.gif.
post #5989 of 11094
Ok, I finally received an email from Caselabs that my case is on its way, I took advantage of the 11 days of white sale and purchased a case in white.

Since placing my order, I've bought a few extra parts/components to fill my case with, and one of the things I bought is an Aquaero 6 XT with the blue LEDs. I've also bought the Swiftech PWM 8 way fan splitter, 3 of them, 2 x Poweradjust 3 USB Ultras, a farbwerk USB Bluetooth version, a passive heatsink for the Aquaero 6, an Acrylic glass display cover (just to see how it would look with the blue LEDs, and I already have some LED strips that I assume will work with the farbwerk controller unless I have to buy the specific LEDs that work with the farbwerk, but from what I can tell they have the same connectors. I have 2 x Koolance inline flow meters with built-in temperature probes, and I have the separate Koolance display units for the flow meters but I intend to plug the temperature sensors into the Aquaero along with a couple of temperature fittings.

I do have a question I'm hoping someone can answer for me. Does anyone know if they make a bezel for the poweradjust 3s and the farbwerk controller in white or is there a way I can mount the poweradjusts and the farbwerk inside of my case somewhere and keep a 5.25" drive Bay open? Lastly, besides not listing the fans, it there any other part/component I left out of my Aquaero setup? This is the first time I'll be using an Aquaero, and I want to make sure when my case arrives this week that I already have everything I need.

I'd appreciate any input if I forgot anything, and also some input on mounting the poweradjusts and farbwerk. If I need to use a bezel or if they can be mounted somewhere inside the case out of site. Thanks!
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post #5990 of 11094
I have one of the poweradjust mounting brackets located BEHIND the Aquaero 6XT pointing into the case.

Consider that as an option, but mounting in a Case Labs case will probably require a long 5.25 mount.

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