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post #6841 of 11104
Ohhhhh! So I would have to get 2 poweradjusts, or run 2 pumps off of one (if possible). Dang, cost and complexity just went up...mad.gif
post #6842 of 11104
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Just got mine, must say not impressed with build quality. all the stamping for the wording is worn like it was used, thats aesthetic. however on the backside all the connectors look like they were poorly soldered on, all the soldering looked great expect one looked almost bridged...i had to sponge it up and fix it myself. but the seating looks shoddy if you look at pwm 1 and 2, fans 3 and 4, and the NC NO COM Relay area and flow areas.







Hopefully it makes up for it

Just want to ask quickly, is http://www.aquatuning.us/ a trusted place to buy stuff or is this possibly why my product came why it did?
post #6843 of 11104
Although, I could probably run 6 fans (2 rads to cool CPU) off of one channel. Should be well under the 30 watt max per channel. That would still leave me with 1 poweradjust to get.
post #6844 of 11104
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Originally Posted by ShortBtwnHdset View Post

Ohhhhh! So I would have to get 2 poweradjusts, or run 2 pumps off of one (if possible). Dang, cost and complexity just went up...mad.gif

I run both my swiftech mpc35x DCC on one channel via a PWM splitter. I have 8 noiseblocker 120mm fans on one channel no problem at all for AQ6. I have the fans for my 3 RADs all on the one channel, case fans (4) on one channel and pedestal exhaust fans (3) on the last. I don't know about 2 fans on one channel of the poweradjust.
Edited by apw63 - 2/22/16 at 1:21pm
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post #6845 of 11104
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Although, I could probably run 6 fans (2 rads to cool CPU) off of one channel. Should be well under the 30 watt max per channel. That would still leave me with 1 poweradjust to get.


If you get the Aquabus D5's they don't use up a PWM header. You can just connect them through the aquabus to your Aquaero and then you're set!
Even if you have two separate loops, I doubt you would need more than 3 channels anyways (1 output per loop and the third for your case-fans)

There's one thing you should check with Shoggy though, I'm not sure if you can actually use a sensor input to evevn control aquabus D5's. If I'm not mistaken Shoggy told me a while back that it was not possible. Íf you want to control the pump-speed by a sensor value you probably need to put two PWM versions on a PWM header, since those for sure can be controlled by sensor input.


If my two D5 varios ever die, I probably will change them out for PWM versions myself.
I normally run my D5's at setting one (sub 2000rpm) and the temperature difference on the GPU is only 3 degrees between both at max, nor are my radiators more effective at higher pump-speeds.
Only thing really affected by the flow is my MIPS Iceforce, which gives a temperature drop of 8 degrees when both pumps are at setting 5.
Quite a lot and when using two PWM pumps I could either keep the deltaT over the loop constant or just use the temperature of the CPU to control the pumps.
post #6846 of 11104
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If you get the Aquabus D5's they don't use up a PWM header. You can just connect them through the aquabus to your Aquaero and then you're set!
Even if you have two separate loops, I doubt you would need more than 3 channels anyways (1 output per loop and the third for your case-fans)

There's one thing you should check with Shoggy though, I'm not sure if you can actually use a sensor input to evevn control aquabus D5's. If I'm not mistaken Shoggy told me a while back that it was not possible. Íf you want to control the pump-speed by a sensor value you probably need to put two PWM versions on a PWM header, since those for sure can be controlled by sensor input.


If my two D5 varios ever die, I probably will change them out for PWM versions myself.
I normally run my D5's at setting one (sub 2000rpm) and the temperature difference on the GPU is only 3 degrees between both at max, nor are my radiators more effective at higher pump-speeds.
Only thing really affected by the flow is my MIPS Iceforce, which gives a temperature drop of 8 degrees when both pumps are at setting 5.
Quite a lot and when using two PWM pumps I could either keep the deltaT over the loop constant or just use the temperature of the CPU to control the pumps.

I'm sorry, I'm a little confused. What's an Aquabus? Did you mean Poweradjust? Or is that a model of the D5 done by a particular manufacturer?

Ooooh, Duh! You mean a D5 with aquacomputer hardware/software.wackosmiley.gif
Edited by ShortBtwnHdset - 2/22/16 at 3:17pm
post #6847 of 11104
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I'm sorry, I'm a little confused. What's an Aquabus? Did you mean Poweradjust? Or is that a model of the D5 done by a particular manufacturer?

Ooooh, Duh! You mean a D5 with aquacomputer hardware/software.wackosmiley.gif

It's indeed a version of the D5 produced by aquacomputer. It's an aquabus/usb pump, very nice little pump. drunken.gif

PMW versions are not made by aquacpmputer if I'm not mistaken.

How exactly are you planning your setup? If you give us the details and your requirements then we'll be able to help you get the best solution
post #6848 of 11104
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Originally Posted by Jetskyer View Post

It's indeed a version of the D5 produced by aquacomputer. It's an aquabus/usb pump, very nice little pump. drunken.gif

PMW versions are not made by aquacpmputer if I'm not mistaken.

How exactly are you planning your setup? If you give us the details and your requirements then we'll be able to help you get the best solution

Ok, kind of crazy build. X79 on a budget, if you can use those terms in the same sentence. Have an old custom watercooled setup(AMD 955BE, I believe), but getting dated. Everything has changed so much that I won't be able to reuse any of it.

Asus Sabertooth motherboard (bought used from friend) along with his 4820K. 32Gig ram. Want overclocking, but not likely extreme with this motherboard.

Serial Loop - Aquabox pro single bay reservoir-->aquastream XT pump (no firmware upgrades)-->alphacool Monsta 240mm rad (used off e-bay $65)-->eventual GPU leg of circuit (have an aircooled GTX970, but waiting for Pascal)-->2nd pump to be purchased-->Alphacool 140mm 60mm thick rad (new)-->Alphacool 240mm 60mm thick (used off ebay $60.00)-->EK EVO CPU block to be purchased--> back to reservoir.

All rads are push/pull, Noctua industrial series fans. Case is a Fractal ARC XL. 240 MM Monsta rad front inlet, 140mm rad back outlet external, 240mm rad top outlet.

I've still have to purchase the AQ6. Last thing to mention is beside the top rad, mounting 4-60mm fans for VRM/RAM/Motherboard cooling, all on one channel or circuit.

So, I have 1 channel for front rad (4 fans), one channel for back and top rad (6 fans), one channel for XT pump, one channel for 60mm fans. There will be several motherboard connected fans for more inlet air, not likely monitored in AquaSuite. Problem is the second pump isn't going to be duplicate XT, because of size and cost constraints. Budget is a big consideration (taken me 4 months to get this far), so I have to get a component at a time.
Edited by ShortBtwnHdset - 2/22/16 at 4:42pm
post #6849 of 11104
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Originally Posted by ShortBtwnHdset View Post

Ohhhhh! So I would have to get 2 poweradjusts, or run 2 pumps off of one (if possible). Dang, cost and complexity just went up...mad.gif

Can get a little confusing. It was already stated about the PWM channels so hopefully you got that. The pumps you listed are aquabus/USB versions. Someone went into that as well, they do not hook up to the PWM header. As said there are limited functions when hooked up via aquabus. I believe you might be only able to use a fixed value controller and have monitoring. Someone can correct me if wrong but if hooked up via USB you can use all functions with any controller. So each pump would hook up to power supply and need a USB header for full control. I think a lot here would agree that there is no real advantage to be gained in a loop by having the pump vary in speed while in use. So the aquabus connection should be fine for most. You can purchase Aquacomputer PWM D5 pumps as well. For separate control obviously each pump would need one of PWM header leaving you only two for fans. Another option is to get standard voltage controlled D5's and use fan headers or get a poweradjust for each pump. Lots of options.

As far as #of fans on each header. There is a video by Aquacomputer showing 20 fans each on two headers and a pump each on the other two. You can always use powered fan splitters on each header to take to fan load off of the Aquaero. I ended up using two of the Swiftech 8 fan splitters. One for my push/pull 560 and the other for two 280 rads.

IMO the XT pumps would only be okay in a very basic loop. I have one with very low hours. PM for a screamin deal. You are better off with the D5
Edited by RDKing2 - 2/22/16 at 4:21pm
post #6850 of 11104
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Originally Posted by RDKing2 View Post

Can get a little confusing. It was already stated about the PWM channels so hopefully you got that. The pumps you listed are aquabus/USB versions. Someone went into that as well, they do not hook up to the PWM header. As said there are limited functions when hooked up via aquabus. I believe you might be only able to use a fixed value controller and have monitoring. Someone can correct me if wrong but if hooked up via USB you can use all functions with any controller. So each pump would hook up to power supply and need a USB header for full control. I think a lot here would agree that there is no real advantage to be gained in a loop by having the pump vary in speed while in use. So the aquabus connection should be fine for most. You can purchase Aquacomputer PWM D5 pumps as well. For separate control obviously each pump would need one of PWM header leaving you only two for fans. Another option is to get standard voltage controlled D5's and use fan headers or get a poweradjust for each pump. Lots of options.

As far as #of fans on each header. There is a video by Aquacomputer showing 20 fans each on two headers and a pump each on the other two. You can always use powered fan splitters on each header to take to fan load off of the Aquaero. I ended up using two of the Swiftech 8 fan splitters. One for my push/pull 560 and the other for two 280 rads.

IMO the XT pumps would only be okay in a very basic loop. I have one with very low hours. PM for a screamin deal. You are better off with the D5

Ok, so can I use more than 1 USB connection? Motherboard header to AQ6, motherboard header to XT? Have several USB 2.0 headers I could use off motherboard, and still connect 2 USB3.0 to case front (ARC XL only has 2)?

If that's the case, that frees up one more PWM channel.specool.gif
Edited by ShortBtwnHdset - 2/22/16 at 4:49pm
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