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Hi everybody. I have 3 gtx titan in my system, when I first mounted them I tested overclock. With non full screen apps (furmark, fluidmark, heaven benchmark) when the driver crashed it resumed and I didn't have to reboot. But with full screen I need to reboot by every crash.
Is there a way to avoid the system restart when graphic driver crash?




2 - My OC +129 core + 56 memory was stable for 6 mounth, now I'm getting crashes, I dunno which gpu it is, if it is the cpu, or something else (tell me it is dust on the back of the cards!).

The crashes started to happen since I made a new windows install on a 500gb ssd (1 mounth ago), I had problems with the windows update (win 7 64bit) failing, reinstalled again, and I'm having again the same problems: win update fails, sometime bluescreen, I already solved the BCD issue, before it oft failed to boot windows. Still now it crashes and after crashes sometime it fails to boot in windows.
I tested the it with the windows 7 installed on my old ssd, and also there it crashes when using gpu at full load. With gpu downclock of -40clock and -20 memory it didn't crash in the last gaming sessions.

The gtx titan are cooled with universal waterblock of Ek, core is at max at 32 degree. To keep cold the vrm I let the fan not spin under 69% in full load (about the amount it would spin under air at load). CPU is 3970x at 4,6ghz at +55 temp under load (I will test the system without this OC).

With my asrock x79 fatalty champion motherboard I cannot disable completely PCIE slots to test 2way sli without removing the cards. If there is a not-too-complicated-way to disable pcie slots outside from the motherboard bios, I'd be glad to know.


Any suggestion on what cud be the cause, and how to solve the problems?
The next thing I will try is to not OC cpu and OC cards like before, I already suspect it won't solve the problem.
Then I'll try without OC on CPU and OC on 1 card at once to see if I can identify 1 gpu that might be going bad.




3 - After the install of the motherboard basic utilities, logitech mouse drivers, a few tools and so on,
I uninstalled almost everything because it affected the performance ingame. Game was not smooth 100%.
The first main cause that always affects gaming performance is the "windows search indexer" so I completely disabled it. Question do you know an alternate indexer that doesnt arrogantly kick in when your using your system?

I then disabled the marwell stuff (I never understood what it should be for), the logitech performance monitor, when I experience slowdown and it does happen, I kill all processes not windows related.

What do you do and disable, to avoid processes to interfere with hardware heavy loading games? I think windows should have a game mode this is beeing very annoing and disappointing since years.

Do you know an antivirus that has a working game-mode? I used avast for years, then as with the update it became too heavy I changed to AVG. This last one still checks for updates and virus database casually without criteria and affecting performance.


Thanks in advance for your replies
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First, stop using AVG. I don't have any recommendations because I don't use any anti-virus myself (they are all just too irritating for me), but I hear that AVG is almost nothing but problems for many people (but not everyone). You could be one of the many.

 

Second, set absolutely everything back to stock.

 

Third, run your system like this for as long as you can. I recommend a few days up to a week.

 

If it's stable at 100% stock, then start gradually overclocking only the CPU from scratch, just as though you're getting acquainted with a brand new one, fresh out of its box (no expectations).

 

Then, test the final overclock thoroughly. I mean, Prime95 Custom Blend using about 80-85% of your memory for 24 hours. Add other tests after this if you want (but not simultaneously).

 

Run the computer like this for a few days or up to a week.

 

If it's stable, then start gradually overclocking the video cards again, just as though you're getting acquainted with brand new ones, fresh out of their boxes (no expectations).

 

Test the stability of the video cards thoroughly. What to do, I don''t know. I'm not a GPU overclocker at all.

 

If it's still stable after this, then I'd say that you totally ironed it out.

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Is there a way to avoid the system restart when graphic driver crash?

No.
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Thanks for the replies
What antivirus do you suggest?

I disabled oc on cpu set all to manual and it doesnt boot. Booting in safemode shows the list of drivers loading.
It goes to the avgidsha.sys and stops with "please wait".
Means is it having peoblem loading this driver?
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Thanks for the replies
What antivirus do you suggest?

I disabled oc on cpu set all to manual and it doesnt boot. Booting in safemode shows the list of drivers loading.
It goes to the avgidsha.sys and stops with "please wait".
Means is it having peoblem loading this driver?

 

That's AVG. Again, stop using it.

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That's AVG. Again, stop using it.

So system didnt booted on one ssd nor on the other nor was starting from cd!
Without safe mode it told me an error with driver adpu320.sys

Then I set the cpu configuration to default instead than on auto and it booted smile.gif

Something tells me my cpu isn't that good anymore.
First I'll try a gaming session but not on cpu.

What antivirus do you use?
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So system didnt booted on one ssd nor on the other nor was starting from cd!
Without safe mode it told me an error with driver adpu320.sys

Then I set the cpu configuration to default instead than on auto and it booted smile.gif

Something tells me my cpu isn't that good anymore.
First I'll try a gaming session but not on cpu.

What antivirus do you use?

 

Well again, I don't have any recommendations because I don't use any anti-virus myself (they are all just too irritating for me).

 

After having a CPU overclocked for some time, it can degrade, especially if either the voltage was too high or if it wasn't actually stable - or both. So, when going back to stock under this degraded condition, you have to play the role of the manufacturer and figure out what works best for the CPU at stock, and this includes the core voltage.

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Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) 
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