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i7 only outperforms when dealing with certain loads and it's harder to cool at the same vcore so i don't recommend it much for gaming systems unless budget isn't a question and they want to stay mainstream platform
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I wont be overclocking it like crazy unless i see no increase in fps
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Best to do what you can with 1.2-1.3v. TBH Haswell is a little awkward sometimes past that.

It's part of the value to do so (and probably get ~4.4ghz), else we could just use a £30 h81 board and £140 i5 instead of paying more than twice as much for z87 and 4770k and performing the same in low threaded (stock)
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my current fps in a big battle ground, in the low 30s

Good ol' Alterac Valley. A similarily clocked haswell i5 (~4Ghz) would net you around 40-45fps in the same scenario.
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I doubt it'd be only 5% faster

I don't really know how these numbers were taken, but~

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/62

That puts ivy bridge i5 at ~1.37x fx8350 and 4670k is significantly faster

Not sure how solid bench is but 5% seemed way too low for me
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What only 5 fps more than an 8350?
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He said low 30's, screen shows 37.9. A current intel at similar clocks would go 40-45. Don't even bother with website benchies they do flightpaths and the such or out of combat benchies, this is a full blown 40v40 scenario.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMuItilm468

I found a vid-the guy is running a 2600k@4.2Ghz and a pair of 560Tis in SLi, his lowest dip (almost certainly CPU related) was 39fps. This is generally what you get really. I had the opportunity to test the first or second Oondasta kill on my server last year in a 4.5Ghz 3960X with a pair of 7970s in CFX and on pull and for a little while I got single digit framerate, three full raids around...Full steady 60fps on WoW raid/bgs? Sorry, ain't happening.
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Good video, i was going to complain about lack of data out there for bg's/raids etc. I must say though:

Recording will hurt performance

and also a 4.2ghz sandy bridge cpu, will be beaten by like 25% by a 4.5ghz Haswell

Also, it's just really hard to bench or compare in such a volatile situation. A solid performance change in a relatively repeatible scenario with multiple benchmarks is the easiest way to show it, sadly this isn't like sc2 where you can load up a 2v2 replay and get 35.17fps average on haswell for three runs in a row then change clockspeed by 100mhz and get a different number
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I can quite easily make a video and upload more screenshots showing the huge dips in fps on the 8350
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Good video, i was going to complain about lack of data out there for bg's/raids etc. I must say though:

Recording will hurt performance

and also a 4.2ghz sandy bridge cpu, will be beaten by like 25% by a 4.5ghz Haswell

The guy probably got a hit yeah but he had a pretty nice cpu for streaming WoW (2600k) so it would probably be minimal. Anyway his 8350 overclocked~4.5Ghz would hit 40fps minimums too I bet. I already suggested he should grab an i7-4770k and give it a hefty o/c , he will see improvement. Just not to expect miracles. Perhaps they will update their engine in terms of threading for WoD, who knows.
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