Originally Posted by Zer0CoolX
I only mentioned 32GB of RAM because you could use a portion of that as a RAM Disk. Treating some of that space like a HDD/SDD for the project they are working on allowing them to read/write in the thousands of MB/s instead of hundreds. Unfortunately RAM is high priced right now.
Okay but you realize that 32GB of memory will break budget right. The client bought his last computer for $1200 including peripherals and monitors. He's not very knowledgeable on computers and has no idea how powerful this system I'm building for him is going to be. Meaning, for $1100 with Windows, he's already cringing at the fact that he spent $1200 last time and got two monitors along with it.
Originally Posted by Dortheleus
I know you said that your client has a tight budget but I would check to see what you can get in xeon. For the mobo I would recommend Asus P9D-WS for Xeon.
I'm a big believer in workstation class hardware for pro work. I know it cost more but it will last longer also.
The Asus P9D-WS is a $230 board, the board I have costs $80 from Microcenter after discounts. There's no way I can fit a work station board in. As far as Xeons go, the ones in budget will not be outperformed by an overclocked 4770k.
As much as I want the client to spend more money, and I tried to explain him work station class parts (and a work station budget). He is not convinced he needs to spend that much, and is not able to justify the cost of spending beyond what he probably should be spending for his business computer. As said in previous post, his last computer was $1200 with monitors and he keeps throwing that concept in my face not understanding that the person who built his computer last built him crap.
Originally Posted by CramComplex
If it's just for PS and AI then the build is good as it is. You'd want to take a look at this link before you take the plunge: http://sites.amd.com/us/business/software-partners/adobe/Pages/adobe-pro-gfx.aspx
If you can squeeze in a 760 or 760ti with 2 GB or more of GDDR or an AMD card with 2GB of GDDR the system will have more juice for a dual monitor setup.
If the 2400mhz DDR3 is the same price as 1866 or 1600 then it's a good deal as long as the board and CPU can take advantage of the speed. AFAIK only AMD APUs gain a measurable amount of advantage and 2400mhz doesn't really have a significant advantage against 1600mhz when it comes to Intel. (I might be wrong, if someone has articles/benches please link.)
16GB DDR3 is plenty but in production
where speed/time is money the faster your client can get done the more work he can finish with 32GB of DDR3 and at least a 2GB GDDR GPU.
I took a look at the link, and it's all AMD related. I was under the impression the Adobe utilizes Cuda Cores?
As much as I want to go with a 760 I'm not sure I can convince him to spend that much money. The 750 Ti has 2GB of VRAM though.
I can link you a bunch of benches that prove higher speed memory is far superior than 1600 in many applications, but I'm not going to do that in this thread. Considering the price differences, optimal to go with higher speed memory for faster access times and bandwidth.
The GPU, 750 Ti has 2GB of GDDR5 . I don't think it will be possible to fit in 32GB with the budget, again, it's just not possible. The cheapest 32GB kit is still $300.
Originally Posted by Alan G
I agree with those advocating more memory. If he is a serious user of Adobe CC, 32GB of RAM is really a necessity these days. It's only going to get more important as Adobe updates various modules to take advantage of higher end systems. RAM speed is addressed HERE
and there are some other useful articles about Photoshop on this website as well (while I am a photographer 95% of my work is in Lightroom which is not nearly as resource intensive as Photoshop). One further question, are you going to provide ongoing support for this unit? I only ask because you are going to deliver it as an OC unit and this might require some ongoing care. I'm not sure it's worth the trouble. You can also get by with a decent air cooler as well since the applications he is running are not going to heat the CPU up as gaming does.
Everyone keeps making suggestions about adding more memory ignoring the fact that the person has a near $1000 budget.
I plan on providing ongoing support, however as I've done with all my systems that I build that I overclock. I very rarely have to address them continually because I have a bullet proof method of testing stability and I also leave the overclock @ 4.4/4.5GHz and never go over that. This specific build will probably be closer to 4.3/4.4GHz to maintain bullet proof stability.
Considering the chip is a Haswell chip, and it will be overclocked I won't go with an Air Cooler because an Air Cooler that costs as much as the AIO unit will generally perform less and cost the same. If I cheap out and go with a Hyper 212, I might regret that later if there are heat issues with the Haswell processor. Also, I don't feel like installing an Air Cooler and if I need to perform maintenance or upgrades for him I will not feel like uninstalling it by any means compared to the easy maintenance with an AIO unit.Edited by BiG StroOnZ - 3/19/14 at 3:47pm